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    I think I'm about to enter the Twilight Zone.

    I live in the Badger State, and have never had a need for a swimming pool. Swore I'd never have one or buy a house that had one. Lake Michigan is literally out my back door, and I never think about what the ph level is, and couldn't care less what the FC, CC, CYA etc, etc. is, as the sun comes up over the horizon. The club pool in Fla has always served it's purpose just fine................until I came across this @%$*# forum. Now, I can't go in the Fla pool because of what I've learned about water quality from the TFP forum. Thank you soooooooo much!

    Well, stuff happens. My wife and I moved out of the condo in Fla, and bought a house in the same complex. Came without a pool, GOD bless! Guess what? My wife wants a pool and for the first time ever, I am investigating in a pool. That was six months ago, but it feels like it started six years ago in a poppy field in Turkey.

    When it became apparent that a "pool" was about to enter my world, I got on the internet and ended up here. Well, if you're going to do a pool, this is probably the best place to end up. I've read, and learned more about swimming pool equipment, water chemistry, trials and tribulations of pool building than I ever imagined possible. My head was swimming, no pun intended, after reading about what's entailed in building and maintaining a pool.

    How is it possible to start up a pool in Fla when I"m not there as a permanent resident? After learning about the AquaBright finish, here on TFP, I figured, maybe just maybe. More questions on this, later.

    Anyway, we leave for Fla on Friday to shop for the house and meet again with my new best friend, "the pool builder".

    I will take some before pics and will without a doubt have a multitude of inane questions that will probably get me kicked off the forum for ignorance.

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    Re: I think I'm about to enter the Twilight Zone.

    Quote Originally Posted by McDuff View Post
    I live in the Badger State, and have never had a need for a swimming pool. Swore I'd never have one or buy a house that had one. Lake Michigan is literally out my back door, and I never think about what the ph level is, and couldn't care less what the FC, CC, CYA etc, etc. is, as the sun comes up over the horizon. The club pool in Fla has always served it's purpose just fine................until I came across this @%$*# forum. Now, I can't go in the Fla pool because of what I've learned about water quality from the TFP forum. Thank you soooooooo much!

    Well, stuff happens. My wife and I moved out of the condo in Fla, and bought a house in the same complex. Came without a pool, GOD bless! Guess what? My wife wants a pool and for the first time ever, I am investigating in a pool. That was six months ago, but it feels like it started six years ago in a poppy field in Turkey.

    When it became apparent that a "pool" was about to enter my world, I got on the internet and ended up here. Well, if you're going to do a pool, this is probably the best place to end up. I've read, and learned more about swimming pool equipment, water chemistry, trials and tribulations of pool building than I ever imagined possible. My head was swimming, no pun intended, after reading about what's entailed in building and maintaining a pool.

    How is it possible to start up a pool in Fla when I"m not there as a permanent resident? After learning about the AquaBright finish, here on TFP, I figured, maybe just maybe. More questions on this, later.

    Anyway, we leave for Fla on Friday to shop for the house and meet again with my new best friend, "the pool builder".

    I will take some before pics and will without a doubt have a multitude of inane questions that will probably get me kicked off the forum for ignorance.
    It can be done McD. I staked my pool with the owner of the company, and the next time I saw it, it was done. You just need to hire the right person and trust them to do it right. This method isn't for everyone, and maybe I was just lucky, but it all came out well in the end. You can see my build thread in my signature.
    17' x 30' rectangle pool, two 7' x 7' baja decks, 6' x 8' raised spa. Hayward 2HP VSP for features, filter and returns. 2HP single speed for 9 spa jets. 1HP blower for spa bubbles. In-Floor cleaning, Cartridge filter, AquaConnect automation, 400K BTU NG heater. Plaster is Stonescapes mini-pebble in Aqua Blue + abalone shell TF-100 Text from Neighbor -- They're digging your pool!

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    Re: I think I'm about to enter the Twilight Zone.

    Mc,

    Welcome to TFP... A Great resource for all new pool Twilight Zone pool builders...

    Good luck with your new pool build and thanks for joining our group..

    Jim R.
    Finished in 2015 - 17K Gal, IG, 20' x 25' Almost Rectangular Pool, Pebble finish, three rockport water falls. Pentair Equipment: EasyTouch 4, IC40 SWG, 3 HP VS Pump, CCP520 Cartridge Filter.
    TF100 with SpeedStir and SampleSizer, ColorQ Pro 7, Dolphin Premier Robot Cleaner, added Screen Logic 2, added small 3 person Caldera Spa.

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    Re: I think I'm about to enter the Twilight Zone.

    BigE, I actually saw your thread a few weeks ago, but didn't fully digest what you did. I just went back for another look and, Holy Man.....you must have been born under the right stars to pull that off from Chicago? Pretty amazing! Your project is very classy to say the least. Nice job.

    In my case, I will have to be around to see it happen in real time, and that is where my dilemma comes in. I don't have a couple months to hang around to do the necessary things needed to start-up a conventional gunite/plaster pool. I'm convinced, the only way to make it work will be to go with the AquaBright finish. If I'm wrong, please, someone help me with this concept. I've just read too many of the projects here to know what's involved.

    After a number of phone calls to various installers, I finally found a AB installer who relented to my pleas for him to travel down to
    take on the job. I was one Bacardi & coke away from calling Brian D and make my case. It's funny how I feel like I know some of the members of this forum, having spent the hours I have getting ready to take the plunge.

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    Thank you, Jim R. I'm cautiously looking forward to it. Without the info gained from this forum, I'm sure that however it turns out, it would have be infinitely worse.

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    Re: I think I'm about to enter the Twilight Zone.

    Before meeting with the pool builder, I have a question. Knowing that the pool is going to sit, unused for periods of time, at least initially, which system would you prefer; a SWG or regular chlorinator? I have no clue, but would like to get it right the first time. Thanks.

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    Re: I think I'm about to enter the Twilight Zone.

    As far as maint. while your away as many members as this site has I would think there would one close to you that you could possibly make a deal with to take care of it while your gone.
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    Re: I think I'm about to enter the Twilight Zone.

    Quote Originally Posted by McDuff View Post
    Before meeting with the pool builder, I have a question. Knowing that the pool is going to sit, unused for periods of time, at least initially, which system would you prefer; a SWG or regular chlorinator? I have no clue, but would like to get it right the first time. Thanks.
    What months will you be gone?

    Jim R.
    Finished in 2015 - 17K Gal, IG, 20' x 25' Almost Rectangular Pool, Pebble finish, three rockport water falls. Pentair Equipment: EasyTouch 4, IC40 SWG, 3 HP VS Pump, CCP520 Cartridge Filter.
    TF100 with SpeedStir and SampleSizer, ColorQ Pro 7, Dolphin Premier Robot Cleaner, added Screen Logic 2, added small 3 person Caldera Spa.

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    Re: I think I'm about to enter the Twilight Zone.

    I'm an idiot. Still trying to figure out how to post. I'll try again.

    I plan on being gone most of the summer months with quick visits here and there. The rest of the year would be two week stays and gone and then back again throughout. Knowing this, is one system preferred over the other? Obviously I will need regular scheduled maintenance year round. Just wondering what easiest/best.

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    Re: I think I'm about to enter the Twilight Zone.

    Think about getting a web/security cam set up on the house so you can watch and capture the process - and maybe see enough to catch things going wrong while you are away as well. Looks like you really want a SWG as well - that will make taking care of the pool much easier if you get it dialed in and as previously mentioned, find a good person on here to take care of it for you vs some Joe off the street.

    Just this week I read a thread on "Nextdoor" in the neighborhood and someone had quoted a thread from here at TFP. There was another question or two about filters in another thread and I referred them here. There a ton of people on here - someone will be close by that would want to help out for a reasonable amount I'm sure.
    Greg -
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    Re: I think I'm about to enter the Twilight Zone.

    Mc,

    In my mind SWCG pools can be left alone for longer periods of time in the summer months.. Not sure it applies in Florida, but SWCGs do not work when the water temperature is below about 55 degrees.

    Stenner pumps work in all seasons, but someone has to make sure the chlorine tank is kept filled.

    If you are going to have a maintenance crew come by, they will probably have much more experience with SWCG pools than Stenner pools.

    Jim R.
    Finished in 2015 - 17K Gal, IG, 20' x 25' Almost Rectangular Pool, Pebble finish, three rockport water falls. Pentair Equipment: EasyTouch 4, IC40 SWG, 3 HP VS Pump, CCP520 Cartridge Filter.
    TF100 with SpeedStir and SampleSizer, ColorQ Pro 7, Dolphin Premier Robot Cleaner, added Screen Logic 2, added small 3 person Caldera Spa.

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    Re: I think I'm about to enter the Twilight Zone.

    Water temps below 60F aren't conducive to algae growth. Most salt cells shut down at that temp anyway. Once a week brush and PH adjustment is all you need in colder months.
    17' x 30' rectangle pool, two 7' x 7' baja decks, 6' x 8' raised spa. Hayward 2HP VSP for features, filter and returns. 2HP single speed for 9 spa jets. 1HP blower for spa bubbles. In-Floor cleaning, Cartridge filter, AquaConnect automation, 400K BTU NG heater. Plaster is Stonescapes mini-pebble in Aqua Blue + abalone shell TF-100 Text from Neighbor -- They're digging your pool!

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    Re: I think I'm about to enter the Twilight Zone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimrahbe View Post
    Mc,

    In my mind SWCG pools can be left alone for longer periods of time in the summer months.. Not sure it applies in Florida, but SWCGs do not work when the water temperature is below about 55 degrees.

    Stenner pumps work in all seasons, but someone has to make sure the chlorine tank is kept filled.

    If you are going to have a maintenance crew come by, they will probably have much more experience with SWCG pools than Stenner pools.

    Jim R.

    You know I'm a Stenner guy, but figured homeowner would have a harder time finding someone to manage it or know what to do with it, although it really is no work at all. That was my reasoning for suggesting the SWG. Either way he'll want one or the other for sure. As well as a good automation system where he can control the pool and run times, etc remotely. Of course I think Pentair works well for that.
    Greg -
    11K gal, IG Pebble Sheen (Aqua Blue) with sun ledge and attached spa, Pentair Intelliflow 3050 VS/SVRS (3HP), Pentair ET 8 with Screen Logic, Pentair Racer with 3/4 HP booster pump, 400KBTU Pentair Mastertemp, Pentair 60 sq ft DE filter, J&J Intellibrite LED in spa, Zodiac Nature 2 (not used), Stenner pump/liquid Chlorine, build completed in August 2015

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