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    Intel 22x52 build , was a package review thread

    Hello All.

    I have been researching packages and comparing what is offered to what has been recommended here. I'll add a solar cover and will buy a solar heating panel system. no plans for a deck this year, that will wait until next year. Any advice or experience with this company is appreciated.

    I came across MGK pools. They have pools MFG by buster crabbie and the guy has put together a few models.

    I have been looking at the Lamark Edge.

    It comes with the following (and you can further customize):

    Standard Hayward Skimmer package with through-wall return, gaskets, face-plates, hardware, and vacuum plate adapter, plus additional butterfly gaskets.

    Brighton Prism full print beaded liner

    2 Speed, 1 horse power (HP) pump with unicel 100sq ft cartridge

    It comes with a 30 foot vacuum hose, vacuum head, service pole hooks (service pole not included), test strips for checking chemical levels, a hand brush, frog thermometer, Leaf net, service brush, and fine debris skimmer
    Confer 7200 security ladder

    Shipped price is $2621

    its also available with aluminum wall for $2821

    I plan to install it myself.

    I've compared to these and keep coming back to the Lamark Edge:

    24'x52" Saltwater 5000 Round Pool$1,747.00

    Hayward Thru-Wall Skimmer & Return Fitting $0.00

    24'x52" Round Uni-Bead Catalina Liner - 25 Gauge $175.00

    AquaPro 120 SQ. FT. Cartridge Filter System 1.5-HP 2-Speed Pump 2 Year Warranty $459.00

    Confer Roll-Guard A-Frame Safety Ladder $199.00

    Leaf Net Skimmer & 4-12' Telescopic Pole $29.99

    $2609.99 @ the pool factory


    Sharkline Matrix 24 x 54" Round Above Ground Swimming Pool $1,669.99

    Swimline LI2454ASU Unibead 24' Round All Swirl Above Ground Pool Liner, 54 in. Depth $268.99

    Waterway ClearWater II 100 sq. ft. Cartridge Filter and 1-1/2HP Single Speed Pump Combo $474.99

    PoolSupplyWorld A-Frame Above Ground Pool Ladder $174.99

    $2,588.96 @ pool supply world


    24'x52" Saltwater 5000 Round Pool $1,747.00

    Hayward Thru-Wall Skimmer & Return Fitting
    $0.00

    24'x52" Round Uni-Bead Catalina Liner - 25 Gauge
    $175.00

    AquaPro 120 SQ. FT. Cartridge Filter System 1.5-HP 2-Speed Pump 2 Year Warranty
    $459.00

    Confer Roll-Guard A-Frame Safety Ladder
    $199.00

    Leaf Net Skimmer & 4-12' Telescopic Pole

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    Re: 24ft round above ground - package review please

    Welcome to TFP!!!

    I don't have any experience with any of those brands, but wanted to point out a couple things:

    A 24' pool is about 13500 gallons ... the minimum cartridge filter I would suggest for that is 200 sqft ... all those you posted seem way too small. You can't go too large on a cartridge filter.
    And a 1HP 2-speed pump is plenty big ... although with solar panel plans, if you are going to the roof, the 1.5HP would not hurt, but not likely needed.
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    Re: 24ft round above ground - package review please

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    Welcome to TFP!!!

    I don't have any experience with any of those brands, but wanted to point out a couple things:

    A 24' pool is about 13500 gallons ... the minimum cartridge filter I would suggest for that is 200 sqft ... all those you posted seem way too small. You can't go too large on a cartridge filter.
    And a 1HP 2-speed pump is plenty big ... although with solar panel plans, if you are going to the roof, the 1.5HP would not hurt, but not likely needed.
    ahh, excellent info. so, ill look into a larger filter with any package, as as for the roof, no way...its too high and too far away! ha! i'll more than likely build a support structure for them eventually to get them off the ground and make a shady spot

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    Re: 24ft round above ground - package review please

    From what I have seen, the equipment packages are not usually very good ... always a pump that is too big and/or a filter that is too small. You can buy the components separately and get exactly what you want.
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    Re: 24ft round above ground - package review please

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    From what I have seen, the equipment packages are not usually very good ... always a pump that is too big and/or a filter that is too small. You can buy the components separately and get exactly what you want.
    it does indeed look that way as im setting here doing more research.

    i'm open to any filter system, cart, sand, DE...
    the choices are overwhelming...what would you recommend in the $500 range?

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    Re: 24ft round above ground - package review please

    I wouldn't have the first clue about anything specific to recommend. I haven't done the shopping. Look for a 1 horsepower 2 speed pump like a power Flo Matrix and then either a cartridge filter at least 200 square feet or later I can suggest other types of filter sizes as well.
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    Re: 24ft round above ground - package review please

    You have been doing some shopping for sure! There are SO many choices it makes it hard.

    Here is what I looked for when I was shopping:

    -resin everything-bottom rail, top rail, uprights, wall caps

    -aluminum wall

    -large filter

    -2 speed pump

    Beyond that I ignored as I knew I would be getting it on my own.

    So with that in mind sit down with a several sheets of paper and write the "store" name at the top and pick the size you are going with and start writing down the prices of the things that are permanent like the walls, rails, ect. and compare costs making sure to pick like items from each company.

    I can't wait to see what you decide after you do this.

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    Re: 24ft round above ground - package review please

    If ya' go sand filter, you'll need a 22" or so 250 lb. one. And as with the cartridge type----bigger is still better. Mine does fine on the same gallon sized pool.
    16x32x52" Steel Cornelius Miramar AGP Vinyl liner 13,100 gal. Buried 2 ft.
    2 Speed Hayward Power-Flo Matrix 85 g.p.m. 22" 250lb. sand filter hard plumbed
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    Margaritaville Frozen Concoction Maker, Liqour Chiller, & Drink Mixer & Party Tub----Collect 'um all!

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    Re: 24ft round above ground - package review please

    Quote Originally Posted by kimkats View Post
    You have been doing some shopping for sure! There are SO many choices it makes it hard.

    Here is what I looked for when I was shopping:

    -resin everything-bottom rail, top rail, uprights, wall caps

    -aluminum wall

    -large filter

    -2 speed pump

    Beyond that I ignored as I knew I would be getting it on my own.

    So with that in mind sit down with a several sheets of paper and write the "store" name at the top and pick the size you are going with and start writing down the prices of the things that are permanent like the walls, rails, ect. and compare costs making sure to pick like items from each company.

    I can't wait to see what you decide after you do this.

    Kim
    i cant wait to see what comes out of this quest myself!

    thanks everyone for the input. much appreciated.

    Intex 22x52 ultra frame. 10,400 gallon, sand filter. TF-100 test kit

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    Re: 24ft round above ground - package review please

    i had a serious change of direction.

    i decided to go with an Intex 22' x 52" Ultra Frame from Walmart. paid 20 bux for freight delivery

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Intex-22-...-Pump/47215826

    im going to upgrade the pump and use the pump that comes with it as a stand alone for a diy solar heating system with a solar controller.

    ill order some game adapters or make my own.

    what i will spend will be 1/4 the cost of my original plan if i do the site prep /electrical/install myself and the kids still have a 22 ft pool to enjoy.

    i think ill start a build thread to document progress and for feedback.



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    Re: 24ft round above ground - package review please

    Talk about a change BUT this will also show if you really want a pool.

    We can help show you how easy it is to care for!

    Please go ahead and order a test kit. That will pay for it's self fast!

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    Re: 24ft round above ground - package review please

    Quote Originally Posted by kimkats View Post
    Talk about a change BUT this will also show if you really want a pool.

    We can help show you how easy it is to care for!

    Please go ahead and order a test kit. That will pay for it's self fast!

    Kim
    yep, test kit is priority #1. and you are exactly correct... wr want to make sure we use it. and if we do we'll save up for an aqua sport perhaps

    Intex 22x52 ultra frame. 10,400 gallon, sand filter. TF-100 test kit

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    Re: 24ft round above ground - package review please

    Quote Originally Posted by kimkats View Post
    Talk about a change BUT this will also show if you really want a pool.

    We can help show you how easy it is to care for!

    Please go ahead and order a test kit. That will pay for it's self fast!

    Kim
    test kit ordered! now back to pool school.

    Intex 22x52 ultra frame. 10,400 gallon, sand filter. TF-100 test kit

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    Re: 24ft round above ground - package review please

    so im thinking these mats would be nice under the pool. the black side is smooth.
    sam's club has them.

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    Re: Intel 22x52 build , was a package review thread

    Several people used them or something like them with great results! Now...........triple tape BOTH side with "Gorilla Tape" as you do NOT want them to separate at all.

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    Re: Intel 22x52 build , was a package review thread

    Another good tape to use is the Tyvek-type tape used on vapor barriers ... very sticky and waterproof .. do NOT use duct tape.
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    Re: Intel 22x52 build , was a package review thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    Another good tape to use is the Tyvek-type tape used on vapor barriers ... very sticky and waterproof .. do NOT use duct tape.
    i was thinking about that... used in on foamboard for a basement wall insulation project.

    im kicking the idea of using foamboard around as well... need to decide. the whole pool should be here by next weekend. (2 shipments)

    Intex 22x52 ultra frame. 10,400 gallon, sand filter. TF-100 test kit

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    Re: Intel 22x52 build , was a package review thread

    It is also a nice thin tape that you will not be able to feel through the liner.
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    Re: Intel 22x52 build , was a package review thread

    well that was some quick shipping!

    Intex 22x52 ultra frame. 10,400 gallon, sand filter. TF-100 test kit

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    Re: Intel 22x52 build , was a package review thread

    Yup, they ship out same or next day.
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