Become a TFP Supporter Pool Math Forum Rules Pool School
Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: Found this in my filter - help

  1. Back To Top    #1

    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Clover, SC
    Posts
    137

    Found this in my filter - help

    We decided to deep clean the filter after reading and watching the video on here (thank you for that) We bought the house in August and by the looks of the cloudy grossness coming out of the filter looks like it was never done, old homeowner said he changed the sand 2 yrs prior to selling the house but who knows. Anywho... we found this little gadget as soon as we started ... it just floated up to the top once we disturbed the sand a little. Any idea what it is and is it essential for the workings of the filter??
    Thank you
    24' round above ground - 13,500 gal
    sand filter - TF-100 - 1.5 hp pump
    We live outside of city limits and water costs are doubled

  2. Back To Top    #2
    Mod Squad Texas Splash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    South-Central Texas, Marion/San Antonio
    Posts
    17,333

    Re: Found this in my filter - help

    Looks like your internal air relief tube. Typically attached to a lateral or some other part of the internal assembly. The relief tubing generally sticks-up a high as possible to allow for air relief.
    Pat (a.k.a. Texas Splash) ~ My Pool: Viking Fiberglass; 17,888 Gal; Waterway Supreme 2-sp/2-hp pump; Hayward Ctg filter; TF-100 w/ Speed Stir
    Vital Links: POOL SCHOOL, RECOMMENDED LEVELS, RECOMMENDED CHEMICALS, Poolmath Calculator, SLAM, Chlorine/CYA CHART.
    If you enjoyed your TFP experience, please consider donating to Support TFP!

  3. Back To Top    #3
    Richard320's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    San Dimas, CA (LA County)
    Posts
    20,302

    Re: Found this in my filter - help

    Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you're going to have to empty it out again and reinstall that piece. Otherwise, you have an opening the size of that tubing somewhere inside where sand can pass through to end up in the pool.

    What brand is that filter? It should be easy to find an exploded parts diagram.
    16K freeform gunite with spa; Pentair 4000 DE filter; Century Whisperflow 1 HP; Pentair Minimax heater.
    Troublefree does not mean Maintenancefree. It's like brushing your teeth: You can spend a couple minutes a day and pennies a week or go to the dentist once a year and spend several thousand dollars.
    A pool is like a pet - you have to feed it every day, even the days you don't want to play with it!

  4. Back To Top    #4

    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Clover, SC
    Posts
    137

    Re: Found this in my filter - help

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard320 View Post
    Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you're going to have to empty it out again and reinstall that piece. Otherwise, you have an opening the size of that tubing somewhere inside where sand can pass through to end up in the pool.

    What brand is that filter? It should be easy to find an exploded parts diagram.
    Unfortunately it has no markings on it.
    24' round above ground - 13,500 gal
    sand filter - TF-100 - 1.5 hp pump
    We live outside of city limits and water costs are doubled

  5. Back To Top    #5
    Mod Squad Texas Splash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    South-Central Texas, Marion/San Antonio
    Posts
    17,333

    Re: Found this in my filter - help

    Maybe post a pic of the filter? We may be able to recognize it.
    Pat (a.k.a. Texas Splash) ~ My Pool: Viking Fiberglass; 17,888 Gal; Waterway Supreme 2-sp/2-hp pump; Hayward Ctg filter; TF-100 w/ Speed Stir
    Vital Links: POOL SCHOOL, RECOMMENDED LEVELS, RECOMMENDED CHEMICALS, Poolmath Calculator, SLAM, Chlorine/CYA CHART.
    If you enjoyed your TFP experience, please consider donating to Support TFP!

  6. Back To Top    #6

    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Clover, SC
    Posts
    137

    Re: Found this in my filter - help

    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Splash View Post
    Maybe post a pic of the filter? We may be able to recognize it.
    It looks like this one, but its bigger...

    https://www.amazon.com/Sand-Master-G...l+filter&psc=1

    I'm assuming that is the brand. "Sand Master"

    Now the head of the valve snapped off, do they sell the replacement part in a pool store or elsewhere? I was looking at amazon for the part that you called it and come up with nothing... Thanks
    24' round above ground - 13,500 gal
    sand filter - TF-100 - 1.5 hp pump
    We live outside of city limits and water costs are doubled

  7. Back To Top    #7
    Mod Squad Texas Splash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    South-Central Texas, Marion/San Antonio
    Posts
    17,333

    Re: Found this in my filter - help

    I know the pics below don't match exactly to what you have, but it's just to give you an idea. See item #13 on the B&W photo, and how it is secured to the center stand-off tube in the color photo. The tube connects down low to either a lateral or the assembly (hub) they connect to. Then the free end with the screen goes up and above the sand. That's why Richard mentioned you would need to remove the sand to see where/how it disconnected.
    Capture1.JPG

    Capture2.JPG
    Pat (a.k.a. Texas Splash) ~ My Pool: Viking Fiberglass; 17,888 Gal; Waterway Supreme 2-sp/2-hp pump; Hayward Ctg filter; TF-100 w/ Speed Stir
    Vital Links: POOL SCHOOL, RECOMMENDED LEVELS, RECOMMENDED CHEMICALS, Poolmath Calculator, SLAM, Chlorine/CYA CHART.
    If you enjoyed your TFP experience, please consider donating to Support TFP!

  8. Back To Top    #8

    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Clover, SC
    Posts
    137

    Re: Found this in my filter - help

    yup, we removed all the sand and decided since it was out (and yucky with all kinds of stuff in it) we decided to put new in. We found where it attached and reattached it, but as mentioned above the head of it snapped off - weatwha .
    do they sell the replacement part in a pool store or elsewhere? I was looking at amazon for the part that you called it "internal air relief tube" and come up with nothing.
    24' round above ground - 13,500 gal
    sand filter - TF-100 - 1.5 hp pump
    We live outside of city limits and water costs are doubled

  9. Back To Top    #9
    Mod Squad Texas Splash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    South-Central Texas, Marion/San Antonio
    Posts
    17,333

    Re: Found this in my filter - help

    the head of it snapped off - weatwha
    Oooh!
    There are replacement air relief tubes. Not sure about just the top cap/screen though. You might try contacting some of the on-line supply stores like PoolSupply, Inyopools, or any other resource. They may have a way of ID'ing that filter as well. At the very least, at least you got it reconnected at the bottom. Protecting the top can be done one way or the other. Even if you have to do a make-shift screen/cover, or splice another new tube to your existing one. Maybe some other viewers will have an idea or two as well.
    Pat (a.k.a. Texas Splash) ~ My Pool: Viking Fiberglass; 17,888 Gal; Waterway Supreme 2-sp/2-hp pump; Hayward Ctg filter; TF-100 w/ Speed Stir
    Vital Links: POOL SCHOOL, RECOMMENDED LEVELS, RECOMMENDED CHEMICALS, Poolmath Calculator, SLAM, Chlorine/CYA CHART.
    If you enjoyed your TFP experience, please consider donating to Support TFP!

  10. Back To Top    #10
    Mod Squad Texas Splash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    South-Central Texas, Marion/San Antonio
    Posts
    17,333

    Re: Found this in my filter - help

    Here is one example: https://www.amazon.com/Pentair-15457.../dp/B0034EHIVS While this particular strainer is for a different filter, it's the same concept. You might do some searching and find one that is the same size as the tubing you currently have installed.

    And another link: https://www.acepools.com/products/17...FchefgodChIFUA

    Aaannnnnd another: Jandy Filter Breather Tube Assy - R0358700, Fits CL/CV/DEL/DEV
    Pat (a.k.a. Texas Splash) ~ My Pool: Viking Fiberglass; 17,888 Gal; Waterway Supreme 2-sp/2-hp pump; Hayward Ctg filter; TF-100 w/ Speed Stir
    Vital Links: POOL SCHOOL, RECOMMENDED LEVELS, RECOMMENDED CHEMICALS, Poolmath Calculator, SLAM, Chlorine/CYA CHART.
    If you enjoyed your TFP experience, please consider donating to Support TFP!

  11. Back To Top    #11

    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Clover, SC
    Posts
    137

    Re: Found this in my filter - help

    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Splash View Post
    Protecting the top can be done one way or the other. Even if you have to do a make-shift screen/cover, or splice another new tube to your existing one. Maybe some other viewers will have an idea or two as well.
    My husband tried to drill out the snapped off part and re glue the shaft back to the screen/cover with PVC glue it didn't work We will find something or figure it out how to make a make shift cover/screen. thanks for the info.

    Another question and hopefully my last , will we need to backwash initially after filling with new sand?
    24' round above ground - 13,500 gal
    sand filter - TF-100 - 1.5 hp pump
    We live outside of city limits and water costs are doubled

  12. Back To Top    #12
    Richard320's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    San Dimas, CA (LA County)
    Posts
    20,302

    Re: Found this in my filter - help

    Take the pieces to the local pool store. They should have something.

    This is why I tell people that once they start with TFP, they'll only need to go inside the pool store for obscure pieces of hardware.
    16K freeform gunite with spa; Pentair 4000 DE filter; Century Whisperflow 1 HP; Pentair Minimax heater.
    Troublefree does not mean Maintenancefree. It's like brushing your teeth: You can spend a couple minutes a day and pennies a week or go to the dentist once a year and spend several thousand dollars.
    A pool is like a pet - you have to feed it every day, even the days you don't want to play with it!

  13. Back To Top    #13

    TFP Guide
    triptyx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    1,476

    Re: Found this in my filter - help

    Quote Originally Posted by Staci View Post
    My husband tried to drill out the snapped off part and re glue the shaft back to the screen/cover with PVC glue it didn't work We will find something or figure it out how to make a make shift cover/screen. thanks for the info.

    Another question and hopefully my last , will we need to backwash initially after filling with new sand?
    Start by backwashing for at least 2 minutes, then rinse until the sight glass is clear.
    8,500gal plaster in-ground with attached spa, two floor drains, one skimmer. Chlorine, City Water.
    Pentair WhisperFlo 1hp Pump, MagnaTek Midcentury EPlus motor, Pentair CleanNClear 200SF Cartridge filter, Purex Triton MiniMax 250 Gas Heater, Pentair SunLite, AutoFill.
    Kreepy Krauly Cruiser, TF-100 with SpeedStir. :D

  14. Back To Top    #14

    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Clover, SC
    Posts
    137

    Re: Found this in my filter - help

    Thank you all! We have shiny new sand filtering with fierce force out of the filter and we stuck a fish tank aerator (for the time being ) Desperate times... husband was running late for work at that point LOL
    24' round above ground - 13,500 gal
    sand filter - TF-100 - 1.5 hp pump
    We live outside of city limits and water costs are doubled

  15. Back To Top    #15
    Mod Squad Texas Splash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    South-Central Texas, Marion/San Antonio
    Posts
    17,333

    Re: Found this in my filter - help

    Glad things are working out.
    Pat (a.k.a. Texas Splash) ~ My Pool: Viking Fiberglass; 17,888 Gal; Waterway Supreme 2-sp/2-hp pump; Hayward Ctg filter; TF-100 w/ Speed Stir
    Vital Links: POOL SCHOOL, RECOMMENDED LEVELS, RECOMMENDED CHEMICALS, Poolmath Calculator, SLAM, Chlorine/CYA CHART.
    If you enjoyed your TFP experience, please consider donating to Support TFP!

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •