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    New to Pools

    Hi All,

    we we have just moved into our new home (Melbourne, Australia) and we now have a pool to maintain!
    currently the pool has not been maintained for about the last 4 weeks, so I have started by cleaning out all leaves etc... and running the creepy crawly.

    Should I run the filter by itself with the creepy crawly disconnected? If so do I just unplug the creepy crawly from the skimmer box or do I remove the whole adaptor plate that the crawly connects to which would leave the skimmer basket visible when the access lid is off.

    The pool is currently green but doesn't appear too bad.
    The SWG is indicating a low reading code (salt level unknown)

    I purchaesd a Taylor K2006C test kit and performed a couple of tests today and found the following:

    PH was above 8, 5 drops of R005 brought it down
    CYA - 32
    FC - 1.5

    Do I need to SLAM? Or should I look at lowering the PH? And then SLAM? Or will this not be required.
    I have some Dry Acid but am unsure on quantities to add.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Joel.
    In ground 52,100 litres, SWG, sand filter, solar heated.

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    Re: New to Pools

    A couple of photos to show the current condition.
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    Re: New to Pools

    Welcome to the forum

    First, Please read "The "ABC's of Pool Water Chemistry" up in Pool School. A review of the principles we teach will be helpful.

    Next, lower your pH down to around 7.5 Keep it in the 7's.....never higher.

    Now, SLAM your pool. Follow the SLAM article to the letter and your pool will be crystal clear.
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    Re: New to Pools

    Thanks, I will stock up on liquid chlorine and begin the SLAM process.
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    Re: New to Pools

    I've added some dry acid with the aim to lower the ph, will test again shortly.

    Thanks,
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    Re: New to Pools

    Joel, welcome! We have many members from down under who can also give you some great pointers on specific locations to get supplies like muriatic acid if you chose to use it to lower pH. Having the K-2006C test kit is a great start. Since you are going to SLAM, you could lower the pH even a little further (7.2-7.4) as a SLAM takes several days to perhaps a week or more to complete, so it may be a while before you test pH again. You may know this already, but you can turn the SWG down during the SLAM since typically bleach is the preferred weapon of choice to maintain that elevated FC level - in your case "12". Remember, for FC testing, simply do the following:
    10 ML water sample with one heaping scoop of powder and mix. Count drops until clear and divide by 2. Example: 24 drops = FC of 12.
    Stick to the instructions on the SLAM page (link below) and you'll do fine. Good luck! Hope that helps.
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    Re: New to Pools

    Thanks for the advice, I have a lot to learn with all of this testing so all advice is appreciated.
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    Re: New to Pools

    Welcome to TFP etho77!

    You've already been given great advice so I just thought that I would offer some local knowledge if you need it.

    Firstly let me say you've already made a great decision ordering the K-2006C- it's a fantastic test kit and well worth the $$$. It's one of the prerequisites for the SLAM.

    When you've used up that dry acid, the next time your at Bunnings or your local pool shop buy some Hydrochloric acid instead- it's cheaper for a start but much easier to use and better for your pool.
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    Re: New to Pools

    Thanks Jezza,
    my PH 8 tonight, so I have added the remaining dry acid and will drop past Bunnings tomorrow and pick up some Hydrochloric Acid.
    I just looked it up and the brand Bondall is listed under cement products, is this the right product to use? Or should I visit the pool shop?

    Is is the Hydro Chlor liquid chlorine from Bunnings ok to use for the SLAM?
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    Re: New to Pools

    Yep the Bondall brand is the one to go for if you go to Bunnings. Worth checking out your local pool store as well to see if they sell HCL-sometimes it can be cheaper. They should be more less the same irrespective of brand.

    The Hychlor liquid chlorine brand is fine (12.5% chlorine) and the good thing about Bunnings is they tend the turn the stock over quickly as it's strength does reduce fairly quickly. Once again worth checking out your local pool store for comparative pricing.
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    Re: New to Pools

    Ok so PH is down to 7.3
    CYA is 1ppm - typo CYA is 50
    FC 1ppm
    CC 0

    based on this my unsdstanding is that I should shock to FC of 20, is this correct?
    I have addd 12 litres of liquid chlorine and have the pump, and solar pump running
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    Re: New to Pools

    CYA figure looks wrong. Not sure if it's a typo. Do you mean 50 CYA?
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    Re: New to Pools

    Sorry that is a typo, should be 50
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    Re: New to Pools

    No worries mate. Keep that FC level of 20 up as much as possible and test as often as you can (ideally at least 3-4 times a day).

    Monitor your pump pressure and backwash when it rises around 20-25% from the clean pressure. And brush, brush, brush!!

    Also take photos each day looking down the steps and see the change.
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    Re: New to Pools

    I ok so I ran the pump overnight and then the power was off all day.
    Pool is looking slightly better.

    CYA 40
    FC 17.5
    CC 0

    I have back washed the sand filter and am in the process of topping up with tank water and have also added 2 litres of chlorine and have the pump running again.
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    Re: New to Pools

    Just checked FC its at 26.5
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    Re: New to Pools

    At least you seem to be retaining some FC, so that's good. Continue with the SLAM but be careful to not overshoot your SLAM FC shock level of "16" based on your current CYA. Continue with the consistent brushing, sweeping, etc and the water should continue to improve. Have a great day.
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    Re: New to Pools

    Yes not sure why the FC jumped so much, possibly an error on my part.
    Gave everything a good scrub and will continue to do so. Come the weekend I will be able spend a bit more time on it during daylight hours.
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    Re: New to Pools

    When the time comes to turn the SWG back on will I need to add salt?
    should I be purchasing a salt test kit?

    thanks,
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    Re: New to Pools

    Adding salt all depends upon your current/recommended salt level. Numerous backwashes "may" have effected your salt level. So yes, a salt kit would be recommended. There are test strips, but many really like the accuracy of the 1766 drop test kit which is available on TFTestkits.com if you can get those on-line.
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