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    Good deal on a pump too large for my pool?

    Hi,

    I might have to relpace my pump this year, was shutting off by hitself last summer with intervales that were reducing.
    I was looking for a 1.5 HP variable speed pump, but was offered a really good deal on a 3HP intelliflow VS-3050 (half the price of a 1.5HP SuperFlo VS).
    I know this would be wayyy too much pump for my needs, but price is veryyy good.
    My pool is small, no water features, using 1.5 inches pipes and only 1 skimmer about 7 feet away from the pump (about same level as the pump)
    I have a 200 cubic feet cartridge filter, heat pump and a SWCG.
    Should I stick to a smaller pump(better fit) for 2 times the price of a pump too large for my needs?

    thanks.
    12x20 vinyl liner + fiberglass steps. (6800 Gallons)
    SWCG - Hayward Salt&Swim 3C
    Hayward XStream Cartridge Filter (200 SQ.FT)
    Hayward TriStar VSP
    Raypak heat pump, Taylor K-2006 test kit.

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    Re: Good deal on a pump too large for my pool?

    J,

    There is almost no such thing as a variable speed pump that is "too" big. Instead of thinking of it as a variable speed pump, think of it as a variable HP pump. You only use the HP you want.

    I have two IntelliFlo pumps at a couple of rent house.. both have 1.5" lines, SWCG's, and DE filter... and they work perfectly.

    In my case, I can run the "too big" IntelliFlo, 24/7, for less than $20 bucks a month.

    In my opinion it is the "Gold Standard" for pumps and you should not pass up on an opportunity to buy it at half price.

    Two additional things... Never install a pump without pump unions.. they have an O-Ring on the threaded end and look like this.

    And with a SWCG, unless you have automation that will control the pump, you will have to use a time clock to control the SWCG and match it to the pump run times..

    Thanks for posting,

    Jim R.
    Finished in 2015 - 17K Gal, IG, 20' x 25' Almost Rectangular Pool, Pebble finish, three rockport water falls. Pentair Equipment: EasyTouch 4, IC40 SWG, 3 HP VS Pump, CCP520 Cartridge Filter.
    TF100 with SpeedStir and SampleSizer, ColorQ Pro 7, Dolphin Premier Robot Cleaner, added Screen Logic 2, added small 3 person Caldera Spa.

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    Re: Good deal on a pump too large for my pool?

    I do have a pump union already. I do have a timer for my SWCG, but I keep my pump running 24/7 (2 speeds for now) to ensure proper skimming (I have a lot of trees).
    So, you think it won't be an issue to go with this intelliflo VS.
    It won't be an issue when it primes and having very high GPM into my cartridge filter? or heat pump? or anything else?

    As a note, I have a 90 degree elbow right at the pump intake. After that it's straight to skimmer.
    12x20 vinyl liner + fiberglass steps. (6800 Gallons)
    SWCG - Hayward Salt&Swim 3C
    Hayward XStream Cartridge Filter (200 SQ.FT)
    Hayward TriStar VSP
    Raypak heat pump, Taylor K-2006 test kit.

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    Re: Good deal on a pump too large for my pool?

    J,

    Priming will not be a problem.. and, if you run 24/7, it will only have to prime once.

    You can actually set it to prime at the speed you want, but it is not something that I have ever tried to set up, as it just does not matter.

    It will work fine with a 90 at the pump, but if you can push the pump back, I would, and add a little straight pipe.

    Thanks,

    Jim R.
    Finished in 2015 - 17K Gal, IG, 20' x 25' Almost Rectangular Pool, Pebble finish, three rockport water falls. Pentair Equipment: EasyTouch 4, IC40 SWG, 3 HP VS Pump, CCP520 Cartridge Filter.
    TF100 with SpeedStir and SampleSizer, ColorQ Pro 7, Dolphin Premier Robot Cleaner, added Screen Logic 2, added small 3 person Caldera Spa.

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    Re: Good deal on a pump too large for my pool?

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    J,

    Priming will not be a problem.. and, if you run 24/7, it will only have to prime once.

    You can actually set it to prime at the speed you want, but it is not something that I have ever tried to set up, as it just does not matter.

    It will work fine with a 90 at the pump, but if you can push the pump back, I would, and add a little straight pipe.

    Thanks,

    Jim R.
    Deal was too good to be thru.
    The pump was not an Intelliflo, but an older Intellipro without programming capability.
    I want to be able to program speed, schedule run time and see the power usage (yes, I'm a bit geeky...)

    So, now looking at an Hayward TriStar SP3200VSP and a SuperMax VS 343001.
    Using the spread sheet calculator, the TriStar seems a lot more efficient than the SuperMax.
    I also like that the TriStar can have its controller rotated the proper way.

    Any comments on the TriStar SP3200VSP?
    What is the main delta with the newer SP3202VSP?
    12x20 vinyl liner + fiberglass steps. (6800 Gallons)
    SWCG - Hayward Salt&Swim 3C
    Hayward XStream Cartridge Filter (200 SQ.FT)
    Hayward TriStar VSP
    Raypak heat pump, Taylor K-2006 test kit.

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    Re: Good deal on a pump too large for my pool?

    I just installed a TriStar SP3202VSP a few months ago and couldn't be happier. The 3202 is the newer version that can be run by itself or integrated with an automated system. I believe the older 3200 version is a stand alone only version.

    However, given that your pool is only 6600 gallons, you might be better off with the MaxFlo VS SP2303VSP. I installed this very pump for a friend of mine after I did mine and it does a great job as well. Her pool was nearly 17,000 gallons with no water features, so the MaxFlo VS was plenty of pump for her needs. the MaxFlo VS SP2303VSP is about $115 less online than the TriStar VS SP3202VSP. We paid $774 and $661 respectively with no tax or shipping and we even both got $100 rebates from our electric company (PGE). We're happy campers.
    Pool size: 20,000 Gallon Plaster Pool, Pump: Hayward Tristar VS SP3202VSP, Filter: Pentair Clean and Clear Plus 320
    Polaris 280 Pressure side cleaner, Solar cover, Pentair Amerilite LED pool light, Taylor K-2006C test kit
    Location: San Jose, CA

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