Last year i remodeled my yard i wasn't planning any pool work to be done except a heater and salt system but upon the demo of the patio the construction guy noticed my pool wall was caving in on itself. So i found a pool guy and figured if its open now is the time to do the work. He told me i had to replace the two 8 foot pool walls to fix the problem. I told him as long as it was open and exposed i would like to do the following.........
- Add Skimmer on opposite side of pool (this way i now would have 2)
- Add additional return line (This way i would now have 3)
- Install new liner
- Install 2 Pentair Laminars
- Install Pentair Salt Cell with Easy Touch 8 Smart System
- Install ScreenLogic2
- Intsall 2 CMP LED Waterfalls 60" each
- Install Pentair 400k BTU Heater
- Install 3 Globrights
- Install Metal Steps
- Install two 8 foot metal walls for pool
- Re-plum all existing PVC lines
He was supposed to start end of May but he kept pushing me off saying it was due to rain and other jobs being behind. We started in middle/end of July. He brought in a excavator dug up everything and pilled it on my grass. He then installed everything on the list above and i had nothing but problems starting after the liner.
What he messed up below.....
1. He left all his debris on site and refused to remove them saying he wouldn't be able to get his truck back for another month. (Knowing i was pressed for time which i finally had my paver guy do it who is the best)
2. He floated the liner 2 times because it took him over a week to return to the job site both times.
3. I noticed rocks/bumps in the bottom but he told me it is normal and that the reason i see the bumps is because i need a new vermiculite bottom. He assured me once water was in the pool they would disappear.
4. He installed my additional pool skimmer on the raised wall portion of my pool. Literally one foot away from the lower level where we spoke about putting the skimmer. Now i required about eighteen 1" collar extensions to meet the paver patio top.
5. Probably the biggest mess up he did by far... He only ran one 1.5" pvc pipe and T'd it to both water falls when that didn't work he looped it. He assured me all i needed to get the desired water flow was a booster pump and that he would be back with one. At this point paver guys were working and building everything he knew they would be done soon but didn't return until 3 days later with the pump which did not work and didn't give me the desired flow. I called CMP who told me each waterfall runs 75 GPM and i would have required direct lines to each or a 2 " pipe. When i told the pool guy this he blamed me and said i should have know because i researched which waterfalls i wanted. I was shocked and we yelled at each other, if i knew how to do all this i would have done it and not hired him to do "his job". At this point i couldn't change the pipe out (It was buried under dirt and pavers) and I had to improvise even when the pool guy basically gave up and said there is nothing he could do. I had the paver guy take up the raised patio pavers and i tapped into his 4 inch drainage pipe which i ran another 1.5" PVC pipe through to the pool equipment and connected the other end to the other waterfall. I figured this would solve the problem me having two direct lines of 1.5" PVC to each waterfall. But still it did not. So this is what the pool guy suggested. He said that we would need to designate one of my Skimmers directly as a waterfall suction line because i do not have a bottom drain and the waterfalls would operate on their own 2 HP Hayward pump. At this point it is now end of August beginning of September and i knew he just wanted to be done with me sending his employees to try things and nothing has worked. I then closed the pool for winter with no solution.
I just opened up my pool today with a new pool company and my waterfall is still all messed up. The water just trickles out of them, it is supposed to arch but does not just drips down the wall below and into the pool. I have the guy coming back this week to see if he can find a solution to my issues.
Anyone have any ideas of what i could do.
Ps.... i also forgot to mention when he put my liner in he told me i could turn it on when water is above skimmer. When i turned it on i didn't see any water flow. Which is because he forgot to cut out the return lines.
Pictures if you guys are interested can be found here
Shutterfly
- Add Skimmer on opposite side of pool (this way i now would have 2)
- Add additional return line (This way i would now have 3)
- Install new liner
- Install 2 Pentair Laminars
- Install Pentair Salt Cell with Easy Touch 8 Smart System
- Install ScreenLogic2
- Intsall 2 CMP LED Waterfalls 60" each
- Install Pentair 400k BTU Heater
- Install 3 Globrights
- Install Metal Steps
- Install two 8 foot metal walls for pool
- Re-plum all existing PVC lines
He was supposed to start end of May but he kept pushing me off saying it was due to rain and other jobs being behind. We started in middle/end of July. He brought in a excavator dug up everything and pilled it on my grass. He then installed everything on the list above and i had nothing but problems starting after the liner.
What he messed up below.....
1. He left all his debris on site and refused to remove them saying he wouldn't be able to get his truck back for another month. (Knowing i was pressed for time which i finally had my paver guy do it who is the best)
2. He floated the liner 2 times because it took him over a week to return to the job site both times.
3. I noticed rocks/bumps in the bottom but he told me it is normal and that the reason i see the bumps is because i need a new vermiculite bottom. He assured me once water was in the pool they would disappear.
4. He installed my additional pool skimmer on the raised wall portion of my pool. Literally one foot away from the lower level where we spoke about putting the skimmer. Now i required about eighteen 1" collar extensions to meet the paver patio top.
5. Probably the biggest mess up he did by far... He only ran one 1.5" pvc pipe and T'd it to both water falls when that didn't work he looped it. He assured me all i needed to get the desired water flow was a booster pump and that he would be back with one. At this point paver guys were working and building everything he knew they would be done soon but didn't return until 3 days later with the pump which did not work and didn't give me the desired flow. I called CMP who told me each waterfall runs 75 GPM and i would have required direct lines to each or a 2 " pipe. When i told the pool guy this he blamed me and said i should have know because i researched which waterfalls i wanted. I was shocked and we yelled at each other, if i knew how to do all this i would have done it and not hired him to do "his job". At this point i couldn't change the pipe out (It was buried under dirt and pavers) and I had to improvise even when the pool guy basically gave up and said there is nothing he could do. I had the paver guy take up the raised patio pavers and i tapped into his 4 inch drainage pipe which i ran another 1.5" PVC pipe through to the pool equipment and connected the other end to the other waterfall. I figured this would solve the problem me having two direct lines of 1.5" PVC to each waterfall. But still it did not. So this is what the pool guy suggested. He said that we would need to designate one of my Skimmers directly as a waterfall suction line because i do not have a bottom drain and the waterfalls would operate on their own 2 HP Hayward pump. At this point it is now end of August beginning of September and i knew he just wanted to be done with me sending his employees to try things and nothing has worked. I then closed the pool for winter with no solution.
I just opened up my pool today with a new pool company and my waterfall is still all messed up. The water just trickles out of them, it is supposed to arch but does not just drips down the wall below and into the pool. I have the guy coming back this week to see if he can find a solution to my issues.
Anyone have any ideas of what i could do.
Ps.... i also forgot to mention when he put my liner in he told me i could turn it on when water is above skimmer. When i turned it on i didn't see any water flow. Which is because he forgot to cut out the return lines.
Pictures if you guys are interested can be found here
Shutterfly
