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    Newbie wanting to add thru-wall skimmer...

    Hey, everyone! I have the Intex Ultra Frame pool 16'x48" model with the all-in-one Intex sand filter and salt water system and wanting to do the Hayward skimmer solution that a lot of people on here do. I was curious what to do with the current underwater skim port? I see some keep it and some don't. The only reason I can see keeping it is because I have the Intex vacuum kit that attaches to it with the adapter. If the Hayward one will fit it then I feel like I don't need it tied into the pump.

    I've also seen where some have tied both the Intex ports as inlets from the pump to push water back in the pool and only use the skimmer as the return. Just looking to do this the right way! Thanks all.

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    Re: Newbie wanting to add thru-wall skimmer...

    Hey,

    Welcome to TFP!

    Others that have done it can help you better than I. Good luck on your upgrade, and enjoy the forum.
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    Re: Newbie wanting to add thru-wall skimmer...

    i dont have an Intex but i do have a Coleman pool. what i did with the extra intake port was to cut the opening a little bigger and added this part
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003ZTM0O2...=IVQVSJ9EWHOZ1
    then i put the cover from the orginal intake over that and ran it over to my solar heater behind the fence.
    you could also add that same fitting to the pool and then put this plug over it
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055EHLKS...I2LN0IM12YNPLZ
    here is what my set up looks like. i did install the widemouth skimmer on mine.
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    Re: Newbie wanting to add thru-wall skimmer...

    Thanks for the replies! I found another post showing where they tied the two intex inlet ports together to help with circulation of water and only used the Hayward skimmer outlet to pump. I think I may go that route (unless you see a dire reason this is a bad idea). Can anyone verify if I can use my intex vacuum kit with the hayward skimmer?

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    Re: Newbie wanting to add thru-wall skimmer...

    1). I wish I had kept my original port just to be able to filter water from below the surface in addition to on top. I would have installed a valve so that I could regulate between surface, submerged, or both. Once debris has sunk beneath the surface, the only way to get it out is with a vacuum without an intake below the surface.



    2). My Hayward Dynaskim came with a vacuum attachment plate. It doesn't fit the Intex hoses, but it fits the generic vacuum hoses available at any store that sells pool accessories, ie. WalMart, Home Depot, Lowes.
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    Re: Newbie wanting to add thru-wall skimmer...

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffchap View Post
    1). I wish I had kept my original port just to be able to filter water from below the surface in addition to on top. I would have installed a valve so that I could regulate between surface, submerged, or both. Once debris has sunk beneath the surface, the only way to get it out is with a vacuum without an intake below the surface.



    2). My Hayward Dynaskim came with a vacuum attachment plate. It doesn't fit the Intex hoses, but it fits the generic vacuum hoses available at any store that sells pool accessories, ie. WalMart, Home Depot, Lowes.

    Are you saying a setup like this would be preferred? (found image using google)



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    Quote Originally Posted by mwc104 View Post
    Are you saying a setup like this would be preferred? (found image using google)
    Yes, that's my setup exactly. The second port protects you in case the water level gets below the skimmer or skimmer gets clogged, then the pump won't be sucking air - it will get enough water thru the old port to keep it functioning.
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    Re: Newbie wanting to add thru-wall skimmer...

    That's how I would do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcdtucson View Post
    Yes, that's my setup exactly. The second port protects you in case the water level gets below the skimmer or skimmer gets clogged, then the pump won't be sucking air - it will get enough water thru the old port to keep it functioning.
    Didn't even think about the water level lowering and pulling in air! Excellent point! See, told you guys I'm a newbie

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwc104 View Post
    Didn't even think about the water level lowering and pulling in air! Excellent point! See, told you guys I'm a newbie
    I didn't either, until it happened to me...
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    Re: Newbie wanting to add thru-wall skimmer...

    Just a hypothetical question: If we reference the picture I posted above, what happens if you were to close the valve on the surface skimmer and just used the underwater skimmer? I'm curious what happens when all the water gets sucked out of that pipe between the two skimmers....

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    Re: Newbie wanting to add thru-wall skimmer...

    Quote Originally Posted by mwc104 View Post
    Are you saying a setup like this would be preferred? (found image using google)

    Hey! My pool is famous LOL! (Check link in my signature)


    Quote Originally Posted by mwc104 View Post
    Just a hypothetical question: If we reference the picture I posted above, what happens if you were to close the valve on the surface skimmer and just used the underwater skimmer? I'm curious what happens when all the water gets sucked out of that pipe between the two skimmers....
    There is only one skimmer, the other connection is the original suction port. There are no issues with running either or both, with the exception of reduced skimmer suction when the suction port is opened. If I close the skimmer valve, the water will most likely stay in the pipe from the slight vacuum created trying to pull it out. When I use the skimmer for my manual vac, I open the suction port, then close the skimmer valve to setup my vac plate & vacuum. When I re-open the skimmer valve, I do not see any noticeable air bubble flow through the pump basket, so the pipe must remain full.



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    Quote Originally Posted by domct203 View Post
    Hey! My pool is famous LOL! (Check link in my signature)



    There is only one skimmer, the other connection is the original suction port. There are no issues with running either or both, with the exception of reduced skimmer suction when the suction port is opened. If I close the skimmer valve, the water will most likely stay in the pipe from the slight vacuum created trying to pull it out. When I use the skimmer for my manual vac, I open the suction port, then close the skimmer valve to setup my vac plate & vacuum. When I re-open the skimmer valve, I do not see any noticeable air bubble flow through the pump basket, so the pipe must remain full.



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    Thanks so much for the information! I feel more confident about doing this now. Your pool is famous! Second image on my search! How do you like those GAME adapters? I want to use the intex hoses so I can store the pump for winter make the disassembly easy.

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    Re: Newbie wanting to add thru-wall skimmer...

    I love the intex hoses. Nice, secure connection that never leaks. I used them at the equipment pad as well, and the GAME adapters work great. I have bought a few shorter hoses from Intex's website for the connections at the pump this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domct203 View Post
    I love the intex hoses. Nice, secure connection that never leaks. I used them at the equipment pad as well, and the GAME adapters work great. I have bought a few shorter hoses from Intex's website for the connections at the pump this year.
    Awesome! I like how simple yours looks and that it's maneuverable if needed and can be easily torn down for storage! Can't wait to get started

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    I don't understand when they say "cut the gasket in half". Are there some better installation instructions on here, or a video that starts at the very beginning of the process? I love the idea of replacing the "hanging" skimmer.
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    Re: Newbie wanting to add thru-wall skimmer...

    The gasket is like a sandwich with one side going inside the pool and one side going outside the pool. The slices of bread are connected by a thin rubber wall. Cut them apart.
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    Re: Newbie wanting to add thru-wall skimmer...

    Welcome to TFP!!

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    I basically copied DOMCT's setup, but I took my PVC down to the ground for extra support. I capped the second inlet, but wish I would have tied it into the return for running the Intex Auto Cleaner. I also added a second return port (vertical pipe) for a future fountain/aerator.

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    I think the reason that some cut the butterfly gasket is so you can mount the skimmer without having to drain the pool below the skimmer area. Once they've mounted the skimmer with split gasket, they cut the vinyl out. If you can install the skimmer before you fill, you won't have to worry about cutting it!
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    Re: Newbie wanting to add thru-wall skimmer...

    That's a nice looking setup BCunningham! What did you replace the Intex outlets with?
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    Re: Newbie wanting to add thru-wall skimmer...

    IMG_1975.jpgHere is my setup. Hayward wide mouth skimmer. Second outflow to the pump in case the water gets too low for the skimmer. 1 inflow to a homemade fountain and 1 to the pool. I cut out the Intex returns and replaced them with Hayward. I can remove the eyeball and screw in a pvc adapter and hook up my Intex pool cleaner or vacume hose.
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