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    "Goo" in pool light

    I grabbed a mask a few days ago and did a quick check of the pool (older pool, new to us) to see if everything looked OK. I noticed that the light had something in it up to the bottom of the bulb. I pulled it tonight to see what was going on and found this:

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    Looks like the potting material melted at some point. It's fluid enough that I could clean it out without much trouble. My question is: there was no water in the light and it looks good otherwise - can I just re-pot it (I can get the correct potting material and have experience with potting electrical for underwater applications) and move on or is there a reason to buy a new assembly?

    Thanks!

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    Re: "Goo" in pool light

    That's odd, there is not usually anything in a light that would melt like that.

    The base is usually epoxy. It might burn, but it won't usually melt.

    Did part of the gasket melt?

    Can you show a picture of the inside with the bulb removed?

    If there's any question about the integrity of the light, it should be replaced.
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    Re: "Goo" in pool light

    Is it just me or does that bulb look like a compact fluorescent light bulb?

    The coloration of that "goo" suggests it was not part of the original light fixture. Something smells fishy here...


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    Re: "Goo" in pool light

    It is a CFL, I've been wondering why it took so long to come up to full brightness - now I have an answer. The actual color of the goo seems to be beige, I think the blue was leached out of the gasket. I'll pull the bulb after work tomorrow and get some better shots. I did think it was a bit odd that whatever it was melted and didn't re-firm. The light had not been powered up within 72 hours of me pulling it so it was plenty "cold".

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    Re: "Goo" in pool light

    Any chance that is a dielectric gel used to protect "wet" electrical connections and was put in the socket when the bulb was installed?
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    Re: "Goo" in pool light

    It's about 1 cup of it altogether so probably not.

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    Re: "Goo" in pool light

    Update: Came home and found that the light had tipped over, allowing goo to ruin part of the coping (strike 1). In trying to clean said goo off of said coping I found that it's an amazing compound able to stay fluid and yet simultaneously stickier than anything I've ever run across in my life (it was sticking to me like a rabid spider monkey until I figured out that acetone would cut it). It's probably banned in all 50 states and in making contact with it I'm probably already in the process of dying a gruesome death (strike 2). Once I got the label cleaned off I found that it was labeled "freshwater use only" and is in my newly converted SW pool (strike 3).

    So my next step is to change it out for a fancy multi-color light (per the wife and daughter). I have no idea how to match up a new light with the niche that's installed (plaster pool) or if that's even possible. The info I was able to get off the label was:

    PacFab Inc.
    Model 60-xx5x
    Housing 62-xxxx
    Wet Niche Type L-649314
    500W max draw
    and in tiny print at the bottom 61-8230

    Googling finds that it's likely a PacFab Pool Star / Hatteras model light (the diagrams match what I've got.) What would be my next step?

    Thanks!

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    Re: "Goo" in pool light

    Howdy fellow Texan!

    Your light niche is not deep enough (the measurement from the edge of the pool wall to the back of the niche) to accommodate a newer incandescent light without an adapter plate. Additionally, fitting an LED light (one that is not deep, like the Colorlogic) is a chore to keep it flush without the adapter plate. I find a lot of older pools built in Houston and the surrounding areas had these types of light fixtures/niches. There are a couple of things you could do:

    1. Re-epoxy and refit your existing light (least expensive, but time consuming and potentially dangerous if not done correctly) - I can post a how-to for you if you want... may take me a few days.

    2. You can buy an adapter plate for your niche so it will fit a more common size light - incandescent or LED (easiest route, but cost of plate + new light)

    3. You can put in a new niche (most expensive and least recommended route) that fits common light sizes

    If you decide to go the adapter plate/new light route, I would be happy to purchase your old trim ring, clamp, and glass... I have a customer that cannot afford a new light, but her trim ring and clamp broke. Either way, Good Luck and let us know what you decided!

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    Re: "Goo" in pool light

    Our pools are considered "freshwater" even though we add salt for a SWG. I called Pentair tech once to ask this question.
    Seawater is 35,000 ppm salt, our pools max out at around 4,500 ppm (more typically around 3,000 ppm).
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