Become a TFP Supporter Pool Math Forum Rules Pool School
Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: Sydney Peak Stone Coping

  1. Back To Top    #1

    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Lake Forest, CA
    Posts
    16

    Sydney Peak Stone Coping

    Hi everyone! Anyone have experience with Sydney Peak coping? We are having it installed next week as part of our pool remodel and the PB just dropped a pallet off. This stuff has rust all over it. Should I be worried about it staining the new white quartz plaster that they are going to install? Also, it flakes a bit so I am not sure if it is suitable for a SWG. The masonry guy said that it will be fine with salt and won't need to be sealed. Any thoughts?
    20k gal gunite pool and spa, white quartz, Sydney Peak coping, Pentair VS pump, Sta-rite system 2 PLM300 cartridge filter, Intermatic 240V mechanical timer, 8 solar panels, Teledyne Laars 250btu NG heater, a Pentair Intellibrite 5g pool and spa lights, Poolvergnuegen The Pool Cleanersuction cleaner, 2 inch suction, 1-1/2 inch solar and returns

  2. Back To Top    #2
    Patrick_B's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Midland TX
    Posts
    14,999

    Re: Sydney Peak Stone Coping

    I don't mean to be alarmist, but if I had anything to do over, it would be picking stone that showed zero signs of flaking. I sincerely regret not examining this more closely and hate the flaky stone we do have mixed into the deck and coping. Hate is not strong enough a word actually, so do be sure about it.

    Opinions vary about salt pools and stone, so mine is just another one. If it's prone to flaking, it will do so no matter what.

    As for the color bleeding, I dont know, but if it does on the pallet I might be wary. Could it be residual mud and dirt bleeding the color? I would be sure before I put it in, especially with the flaking.
    TFP Moderator
    Essential Links:
    ABC's Of Pool Chemistry, Test Kits, SLAM Your Pool
    28K Gal IG FreeForm, CLI Quartz, Pentair 36"SF & VS Pump, Dolphin M5, Rheem

  3. Back To Top    #3

    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Lake Forest, CA
    Posts
    16

    Re: Sydney Peak Stone Coping

    Hello Patrick - thanks for the response. I was afraid of that and will definitely have to get some information from the masonry team today. I am hoping a PB wouldn't offer a coping option that isn't good around pools!

  4. Back To Top    #4
    Mod Squad pooldv's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    DFW, TX
    Posts
    24,974

    Re: Sydney Peak Stone Coping

    Rust could be from the pallets or wire used to hold the rock on the pallet. I would definitely rinse it off and then wet it periodically to see how it behaves. Ascorbic acid will remove iron stains from rocks or plaster.

    Flaking and SWG are pretty much unrelated. It is a conspiracy theory that PBs use to avoid warranty claims. The stone is flaking now and hasn't ever been near a saltwater pool. We have some flag that flakes and some that doesn't after 5 swim seasons. We also have flaky flagstone on paths nowhere near the pool. Fortunately, the flaky flagstone in our coping has gotten better, not worse. For the most part it shed some layers and settled down. We have very little issue with it now. It is easy to tell which flagstone flakes and which doesn't just by looking at it.

    So, I guess I could start a new conspiracy that installing flaky flagstone around my saltwater pool actually cured my flagstone issues.
    TFP Moderator
    If TFP helped you or saved you money - Become a TFP Supporter! <--Click here
    2012 build and pics, 20k gal gunite, black onyx pebblesheen, OK flagstone, IntellifoVS, cart filter w/Pleatco, IC40 SWG, Solartouch, 5 12'x4' solar panels, HP50HA heat pump, 8mil solar cover, borates, TF-100 test kit, SONOS, Doheny's Discovery Robot, hot tub on bleach

  5. Back To Top    #5
    Patrick_B's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Midland TX
    Posts
    14,999

    Re: Sydney Peak Stone Coping

    Just be sure for yourself. He might not be paying enough attention. Mine didn't, and the pallets were apparently very mixed in type of content. It's only too late once they set in Mortar.
    TFP Moderator
    Essential Links:
    ABC's Of Pool Chemistry, Test Kits, SLAM Your Pool
    28K Gal IG FreeForm, CLI Quartz, Pentair 36"SF & VS Pump, Dolphin M5, Rheem

  6. Back To Top    #6

    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Location
    NE/Pa
    Posts
    1,514

    Re: Sydney Peak Stone Coping

    Quote Originally Posted by pooldv View Post
    Rust could be from the pallets or wire used to hold the rock on the pallet. I would definitely rinse it off and then wet it periodically to see how it behaves. Ascorbic acid will remove iron stains from rocks or plaster.

    Flaking and SWG are pretty much unrelated. It is a conspiracy theory that PBs use to avoid warranty claims. The stone is flaking now and hasn't ever been near a saltwater pool. We have some flag that flakes and some that doesn't after 5 swim seasons. We also have flaky flagstone on paths nowhere near the pool. Fortunately, the flaky flagstone in our coping has gotten better, not worse. For the most part it shed some layers and settled down. We have very little issue with it now. It is easy to tell which flagstone flakes and which doesn't just by looking at it.

    So, I guess I could start a new conspiracy that installing flaky flagstone around my saltwater pool actually cured my flagstone issues.
    +1 on this.

    also flaking, at least with pa blue is so hit and miss. some flakes some doesn't. no way of knowing. best way of preventing it is to have in under cover, but obviously that isnt's possible wit ha pool. lol

    this is the main reason i didn't go natural for our upcoming build.

    regarding the rust thing. . . see if you can get a hold of the place it came out of. they will tell you if it has a higher iron content and might stain. i know i was warned about natural stone that is around plaster and has the possibility to stain due to iron content.

    jim
    35x23/20 free form gunite 3.5-6 feet water. approx. 20,000 gallons. no spa or water features. 2 skim, 2 ret, floor ret, floor return. 2 inch solid. suction cleaning line. 1.5 inch solid. super blue diamond brite. NPT Gemstone Blue 2x2 with custom waterjet cut Disney Mickey markers. all pentair equipment. master temp 300,000 BTU. de 60. inteliflo 3.0 VS. swg ic40. 3 globrite LED lights. easy touch 4 with screen logic. tf-100/ salt kit

  7. Back To Top    #7

    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Posts
    45

    Re: Sydney Peak Stone Coping

    Yankeefan, I was wondering what you ended up using here and how it turned out? Our pool builder has recommended the Sydney Peak ledger stone for our 30 ft. raised wall. But after reading this and Patrick's comments I am confused...

  8. Back To Top    #8

    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Lake Forest, CA
    Posts
    16

    Re: Sydney Peak Stone Coping

    We had the stone installed and I am happy with it even though there is a higher rust content than I would have liked. The mason said that this is one of the more dense stones and that he wouldn't worry about it with salt systems. We didn't even recommend sealing it as he felt it is hard enough to stand up to anything So Cal throws at it. I haven't come across much flaking but the rust has brightened with the last rains. All in all I like the finished product but haven't installed a salt system yet to test the wear.IMG_2803.jpgIMG_2819.jpgIMG_2818.jpg
    20k gal gunite pool and spa, white quartz, Sydney Peak coping, Pentair VS pump, Sta-rite system 2 PLM300 cartridge filter, Intermatic 240V mechanical timer, 8 solar panels, Teledyne Laars 250btu NG heater, a Pentair Intellibrite 5g pool and spa lights, Poolvergnuegen The Pool Cleanersuction cleaner, 2 inch suction, 1-1/2 inch solar and returns

  9. Back To Top    #9

    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Lake Forest, CA
    Posts
    16

    Re: Sydney Peak Stone Coping

    This is more the type of Sydney Peak that you are looking at:
    IMG_2823.jpg
    20k gal gunite pool and spa, white quartz, Sydney Peak coping, Pentair VS pump, Sta-rite system 2 PLM300 cartridge filter, Intermatic 240V mechanical timer, 8 solar panels, Teledyne Laars 250btu NG heater, a Pentair Intellibrite 5g pool and spa lights, Poolvergnuegen The Pool Cleanersuction cleaner, 2 inch suction, 1-1/2 inch solar and returns

  10. Back To Top    #10

    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Posts
    45

    Re: Sydney Peak Stone Coping

    Thank you so much for the feedback, I am so glad it's worked out for you, your pool is beautiful! The coping looks great with the water color too. I see the ledger has even more of a rust look and probably more than I am looking for. I like how your stone is more blue/silver with a more subtle rust areas. I would like a bit of rust, but maybe the ledger would be way too much. Wish I could find a pool that has used it in ledger form. Will have to check with my builder since he's suggesting it, I am sure he has used it before. Thanks again for the helpful feedback!

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •