Kimkats, yes I have both the TF-100 and Taylor K-1766 salt test kits but pool hasn't been filled yet. Will test fill water and confirm back. We just picked waterline tile and are laying out decking after holiday. Hope we're not too far off. Appreciate the guidance.
Testing and start up new pool
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They started setting our new equipment pad today. Seems Pentair may have updated the design of their UltraTemp 120R H/C units. PB also updated our specs from IntelliFlo 011018 to newer IntelliFlo 2 VST model. Still need to mount EasyTouch 4 and install IntelliChlor IC60 and ScreenLogic2.
We have 2 skimmers and 4 returns, each home run back to the pad with a shutoff valve. Will ask PB to label the pipes later after startup.
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We have 2 skimmers and 4 returns, each home run back to the pad with a shutoff valve. Will ask PB to label the pipes later after startup.
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Nice progress! I would also take a pic and write the info on that as well. Over time the labels on the pipes will wear off or fade.
Kim
Kim
Great suggestion. Still to be done: Diamond Brite Super Blue quartz plaster, fill, start up/balance and some serious spring landscaping.
Oddly our Sand Buff Kool Deck appeared beige as it should when applied and has somehow become white? Not sure how it happens but PB will need to address.
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Oddly our Sand Buff Kool Deck appeared beige as it should when applied and has somehow become white? Not sure how it happens but PB will need to address.
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Kim, our PB think it's the "adhesive" from the Kool Decking bleeding thru. Apparently an adhesive was applied because of the temperature the KD was being applied in. Is going to attempt to pressure wash the powdery residue on the surface tomorrow and go from there. More to follow.
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I sure hope so and am glad he is trying to "fix" it. Now to be on the safe side do NOT sign off on the job until it has had a chance to dry and sit for a couple of days to see what happens then. We had one build where they "fixed" the stain only to have the rain wash the "fix" off the next week. A very sad time for the PO 
Kim
Kim
Are now filling pool from hose. My tests from our fill water are as follows. Please note this is my first ever test.
FC: 1
CC: 0
CYA: 0
TA: 160
CH: 150
PH: 8.2
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FC: 1
CC: 0
CYA: 0
TA: 160
CH: 150
PH: 8.2
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I have a set of links for you. I share these with all new pool owners:
Print these out:
Pool School - Basic Pool Care Schedule
Pool School - Recommended Levels
Bookmark these:
Pool School - Recommended Pool Chemicals
http://www.troublefreepool.com/calc.html
Pool School - ABCs of Pool Water Chemistry
Make sure to ask any and all questions you might have no matter how small! We have all been where you are at one point.
It is a LOT of info. so take it slow. The one I really want you to look at right now is the recommended levels.
I also have this link for you BUT run it by your PB as he is the one holding the warranty card!
Pool School - Start-up New Plaster
Note the no swimming depends on what start up is used. Do what your PB says about swimming.
Kim
Print these out:
Pool School - Basic Pool Care Schedule
Pool School - Recommended Levels
Bookmark these:
Pool School - Recommended Pool Chemicals
http://www.troublefreepool.com/calc.html
Pool School - ABCs of Pool Water Chemistry
Make sure to ask any and all questions you might have no matter how small! We have all been where you are at one point.
It is a LOT of info. so take it slow. The one I really want you to look at right now is the recommended levels.
I also have this link for you BUT run it by your PB as he is the one holding the warranty card!
Pool School - Start-up New Plaster
Note the no swimming depends on what start up is used. Do what your PB says about swimming.
Kim
Thanks for the links. PB started filling the pool Fri. @ 9:30 am. Wasn't there to note my water meter reading as planned. Pool has been filling non-stop with a single hose now for over 24 hrs. The hose was simply placed on the floor of the deep end. The surface is Diamond Brite Super Blue color.
I've done the 5 gallon water test and calculated my fill rate @ 3.8 gpm. If it's 20-24K gal would expect it to be done sometime tomorrow.
There are no chemicals at all in the pool right now. No official startup of any kind has been done and no equipment running since water level not reached.
Will fwd that start-up plaster link to PB and asked whether they are using Traditional or Acid start-up method.
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I've done the 5 gallon water test and calculated my fill rate @ 3.8 gpm. If it's 20-24K gal would expect it to be done sometime tomorrow.
There are no chemicals at all in the pool right now. No official startup of any kind has been done and no equipment running since water level not reached.
Will fwd that start-up plaster link to PB and asked whether they are using Traditional or Acid start-up method.
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Pool Math can help with the size and we have ways with the tests to help you figure it out as well.
Let us know when it is full and what your PB says when you have pool school.
Kim
Let us know when it is full and what your PB says when you have pool school.
Kim
Provided PB with plaster startup link provided. Has been raining while filling. Worms have found their way into the pool this weekend. Have new, light plaster (Diamond Brite Super Blue). Had to let PB know in case there's a risk of staining. Haven't been provided a skimmer net or vacuum yet and seeing their dark silhouettes on the pool bottom isn't helping my OCD [emoji51]
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ME??? I would be running out to Lowes and buying a net of some sort!!!!!!! BUT use care if you do it to not "scratch" the new surface. Rock and hard place
Kimkats, PB started up pool earlier this week and took care of it. Fortunately no stains. Though they have experience with more extreme cases of worms in covered pool over season. Made me feel somewhat better.
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Kimkats,
OK. After first week of new plaster the PB has turned pool over to me. 22,500 gal. Water temp consistently 50F this winter.
Chlorine, 0
pH, 7.2
Calcium Hardness, 150 ppm
Total Alkalinity, 80
CYA, 0
Am not planning to install salt chlorinator until March or April when water temp sufficient.
Any advice you can provide as next step, am learning. Got pH from 8.2 to 7.5 overnight. And down to 7.2 between 8:00 am and 4:00 pm today (by adding 2 pints of acid)
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OK. After first week of new plaster the PB has turned pool over to me. 22,500 gal. Water temp consistently 50F this winter.
Chlorine, 0
pH, 7.2
Calcium Hardness, 150 ppm
Total Alkalinity, 80
CYA, 0
Am not planning to install salt chlorinator until March or April when water temp sufficient.
Any advice you can provide as next step, am learning. Got pH from 8.2 to 7.5 overnight. And down to 7.2 between 8:00 am and 4:00 pm today (by adding 2 pints of acid)
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The water is likely too aggressive and at risk for etching. You need to either get the pH up or the CH up or both really. CH should be 250 ppm and I would raise PH up to 7.6 or so. PoolMath will give your CSI number after you enter all your test results, it needs to be between -0.6 and +0.6. -0.3 to +0.3 is better. More here, Pool School - Calcium Scaling
Poolmath saying to:
1.) add 29 oz of soda ash to get to 7.5 pH - I'll check pH tomorrow, it has been high and will likely raise on its own
2.) add 333 oz by weight or 266
Oz of calcium chloride - which is it? Where do you get this?
3.) add 120 oz or 125 oz stabilizer? Or 311 oz liquid stabilizer?
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1.) add 29 oz of soda ash to get to 7.5 pH - I'll check pH tomorrow, it has been high and will likely raise on its own
2.) add 333 oz by weight or 266
Oz of calcium chloride - which is it? Where do you get this?
3.) add 120 oz or 125 oz stabilizer? Or 311 oz liquid stabilizer?
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More about pool chems and what they are and how to add them to your pool, Pool School - Recommended Pool Chemicals
One is weight and one is volume. You can use a kitchen scale to measure weight or a measuring cup to measure volume. Granular stabilizer is quite a bit cheaper than liquid and works just as well. I buy mine at Lowes. You can probably also get deicer at Lowes.
One is weight and one is volume. You can use a kitchen scale to measure weight or a measuring cup to measure volume. Granular stabilizer is quite a bit cheaper than liquid and works just as well. I buy mine at Lowes. You can probably also get deicer at Lowes.
Good news pH back up to 7.5 this morning on its own.
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