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    Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    I'm hoping my pool equipment will be up and running at the end of the week, barring any rain.
    My contract has Phos-free and start-up chemicals????? I called to ask specifics and they said I would probably have to use an algaecide since some water has been sitting in the pool since last Wed.
    My tap water test is
    pH 7
    CL 1
    TA 60
    CH 110
    My question is, should I just have them put in the salt and turn eqipment on and LEAVE!!!
    I've plugged in the numbers to Pool Calc, so I think I know what I need to go and buy. With y'alls help I think I can do this on my own.
    I just kon't want them putting anything in my pool that will mess me up.
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    Re: Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    You don't want to do anything that will interfere with your warranty coverage. If you want to do the startup yourself, double check with them that it won't void the warranty, before proceeding. If they are fine with it, then by all means do it yourself.
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    Re: Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    Didn't I read somewhere that algaecide had metals in it??? I was just thinkng of shocking with bleach. I'm sure I will need to since 3' of water has been sitting 7 days.
    I don't want to void my warranty, but I don't want them putting stuff in there that I will have to try and get rid of later.
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    Re: Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    There are several kinds of algaecide, some have copper, some have silver, some foam, some are alright (polyquat).
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    Re: Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    I wouldn't imagine that avoiding algaecide would cause warranty problems any more than I would worry that adding bleach to sitting water would.
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    Re: Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    Thanks 257WhyMag. I am not going to let them put any metals in my pool, period
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    Re: Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    No problem. Good advice from Jason though. Just be sure that there aren't any chemicals to avoid in your warranty before proceeding. In the end though, chlorine is chlorine and your water will need some anyway.
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    Re: Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    Hi Lynn I'm glad you are so close to swimming

    The only algicide you should use with your SWCG is the polyquat - you don't want the metals that some algicides have and the linear quat we use (ammonia based) causes a sheet of fine foamy crust on the surface of the pool when the salt is ~1500ppm or higher

    You will want to let them add a metal to the pool, calcium to protect the gelcoat.

    As long as the SWCG is operating properly, you shouldn't need any algicide, I'd keep some poly 60 on hand for winterizing or if you go on vacation.

    Have you posted any pics yet?
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    Re: Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    Go to orthofish's pool build Ted.
    I knew I was going to need some calcium chloride cause my tap CH is110.
    Lynn

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    Re: Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    When you say have some Poly 60 around, how much is some????
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    Re: Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    A quart should be enough for 2 doses

    Now I'm off to go check out your pics 8)
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    Re: Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    Thanks Ted.
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    Re: Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    I plugged in my #'s and the PC says i need 31lbs. of calcium chloride and 16lbs. of stabilizer.
    Went to Wally World all excited about getting my "stuff" Well I got the baking soda, bleach, and Borax without any trouble. Went to the pool section and began reading labels Dichlor,trichlor,stabilizer for small pools, trichlor-s-triazinatrone?, stuff with 20-30% other ingredients, no polyquat 60
    Needless to say I left that isle with nothing in my buggy.
    Can somebody go to Wally World with me?

    Tap water #'s at top of this thread.
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    Re: Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    walmart isn't going to have polyquat 60.
    do you have a pool store around? if so, which one(s)?
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    Re: Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    Only Swim World.
    They had 4lbs. stabilizer for $16. I've never bought chemicals before, so I don't know if that is good or bad. If I had to guess, coming from a pool store it would be bad.
    The only good thing about it was it said it was CYA, plain and simple. The stuff at Walmart just confused me.
    I need it to be in black and white and no mumbo jumbo cutesy names. I'm not used to the terminology.

    Hey Casey, Maybe somemore pics in the Visual Encyclopedia
    Lynn

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    Re: Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    I couldn't find what chemicals they sell listed on their website, but just look for an algaecide product that says polyblahblahblah 60% and that will be it.
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    Re: Should I ask them to leave after salt??

    Thank you reebok
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