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    Newbie Need Some Help

    Ok first let me say I wish I new about this site a few years ago I have spent a lot of money over the past 6 years having a local PB opening and closing my pool. Last season I had enough and decided to close my pool by myself since my local PB charged me $700 just to open my pool. I found another pool chemical retailer on-line and ordered there closing kit which basically was 5 bags of "shock" and 1 large bottle of algaecide. I found this site last week and after reading I ordered a TF-100 test kit and I'm excited about using the BBB method. I pulled my pool cover today and did my first set of test using the TF-100 here are my results. I'm a little concerned about some of my low readings especially the pH being below 6.8 when I did the test the color was a yellowish color. I have a few questions first my water is fairly clear but there is some dirt on the bottom should I vacuum this out on waste before adding any chemicals do I need to use Clarifier to clear up the cloudyness? Second should I get my pH and TA up before I add bleach? Any suggestions or hints are greatly appreciated. Thanks

    Date 5/19
    FC = .5
    CC = 0
    TC = .5
    pH = <6.8
    T/A = 10
    CH = 50
    CYA = 30
    Temp = ? Cold
    Location = Central Kentucky
    Pool Size = 18x36 - 8ft deep end
    Pool Type= Inground Vinyl
    Filter = Hayward PRO Series Sand Filter
    Pump = Hayward Super Pump 1.5 HP
    Test Kit = TF-100

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    Re: Newbie Need Some Help

    I can start:

    First go to http://www.poolcalulator.com

    enter your numbers

    At the bottom look at suggested goal levels and pick you chlorine delivery method.

    I would suggest you raise your

    TA to 70
    PH to 7.5

    As far as the dirt in the bottom, how much is there? I typically avoid vacuuming to waste because it takes so much water. I prefer using a leaf rake to get most of it out, then using my cleaner/filter to get the rest.

    Add your filter type to your sig also.
    15,500 gal, inground gunite pool with 7 ft spa, 2 speed pump 2hp/.33hp, 3/4 hp booster pump, Intermatic P1353 timer, AutoPilot SC-48, Sand filter with ZeoBest, Heater, that I never use . . .

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    Re: Newbie Need Some Help

    Welcome to TFP!

    You should circulate your water for at least an hour before testing. If you forgot to do that you should circulate the water and test again before adjusting any of your levels. The rest of this assumes you circulated before testing.

    You want to get your PH and TA up into the normal range before shocking. You can do that using either soda ash, or a combination of baking soda and borax. Either way, take it in steps and circulate for an hour and test again before proceeding.

    Once the TA is 70 or higher and PH is at least 7.2, you can shock the pool. Remember to ignore the PH reading when the FC level is above 10.

    Any vacuuming you can do is a great idea. If it is a light dusting of debris you can do it while on filter. If there is a significant layer of debris it might be better to vacuum to waste.

    I would skip the clarifier. It is unlikely to do anything.
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    Re: Newbie Need Some Help

    Thanks for the quick responses I just turned on my filter and will let it ciruclate for an hour or so and retest before I go buy my chemicals. however I have one question I must not be using the pool calculator correctly I enter 30,000 gal as my pool size and entered my current levels with goals that were already there when I open the page. I'm not getting any suggestions except on the pH section it suggest adding 391 oz of muriatic acid, but I thought from my reading in pool school that muriatic acid
    lowered pH with my pH being below 6.8 I thought I would want to rasie my pH by adding baking soda? Is there something I'm missing on the calculator app? By the way I have a Hayword sand filter and I updated my sig thanks for pointing that out.
    Location = Central Kentucky
    Pool Size = 18x36 - 8ft deep end
    Pool Type= Inground Vinyl
    Filter = Hayward PRO Series Sand Filter
    Pump = Hayward Super Pump 1.5 HP
    Test Kit = TF-100

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    Re: Newbie Need Some Help

    It sounds like you might have entered your current numbers in the right hand "Target" column instead of the left hand "Now" column. That would reverse the instructions as you describe.
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    Re: Newbie Need Some Help

    Quote Originally Posted by lovingHDTV
    I prefer using a leaf rake to get most of it out, then using my cleaner/filter to get the rest.
    This may not be the best advice for a vinyl pool
    Nod
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    ~~Nashville, NC~~

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    Re: Newbie Need Some Help

    That was the issue pretty bad mistake for an IT guy
    Location = Central Kentucky
    Pool Size = 18x36 - 8ft deep end
    Pool Type= Inground Vinyl
    Filter = Hayward PRO Series Sand Filter
    Pump = Hayward Super Pump 1.5 HP
    Test Kit = TF-100

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    Re: Newbie Need Some Help

    Quote Originally Posted by Nod
    Quote Originally Posted by lovingHDTV
    I prefer using a leaf rake to get most of it out, then using my cleaner/filter to get the rest.
    This may not be the best advice for a vinyl pool
    Not a garden rake, one of these:

    http://www.buyhardwaresupplies.com/?t=5 ... er=8207672
    15,500 gal, inground gunite pool with 7 ft spa, 2 speed pump 2hp/.33hp, 3/4 hp booster pump, Intermatic P1353 timer, AutoPilot SC-48, Sand filter with ZeoBest, Heater, that I never use . . .

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    Re: Newbie Need Some Help

    Quote Originally Posted by lovingHDTV
    Quote Originally Posted by Nod
    Quote Originally Posted by lovingHDTV
    I prefer using a leaf rake to get most of it out, then using my cleaner/filter to get the rest.
    This may not be the best advice for a vinyl pool
    Not a garden rake, one of these:

    http://www.buyhardwaresupplies.com/?t=5 ... er=8207672
    ah ok, that makes sense I was just imagining someone raking it up with a garden rake
    Nod
    16x32 IG, polymer panel Vinyl Pool w/approx 21k gallons of H20
    1 HP Hayward Pump & 300lb Sand Filter ~ Polaris 280 Pool cleaner
    ~~Nashville, NC~~

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