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    repairing water line tile help

    The water line tile in pool is falling off in some areas - I have all of the tiles that came off & due to money being tight this summer I would like to reafixx them, rather than redo all the tile this year.

    What kind of adhesive should be used & how long will it take to cure?

    Thanks
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    Re: repairing water line tile help

    What kind of pool do you have: vinyl, fiberglass, plaster, or something else?
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    Re: repairing water line tile help

    Welcome to TFP!!

    As Jason said, type of pool matters! However, if money is tight, you can just use some caulk to keep them in place for this season and do the real repair next year 8)
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    Re: repairing water line tile help

    pool is gunite

    I purchased 3M Marine Adhesive/Sealant No. 5200

    I heard this works well
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    Re: repairing water line tile help

    Well..... before I could get around to repair job, yesterday my daughter went in pool for 1st time & like 30 tiles fell in.

    I think its time to bite the bullet & have all waterline tile replaced.

    Anyone know what this should cost?
    I believe me pool guy said $2400.
    He said he would lower the water a bit, do the job in 1 day & then it would be about a week before we could use the pool again.


    I did a rough measurement of the pool last night & it is approx 100-125 foot in perimeter.

    Anyone have a recommendation for someone to do this job in Northern NJ.

    I would like to do it right away.

    I added 2 pics of the pool - 1 shows almost the entire pool & 1 shows a area where tiles fell off.

    Thanks
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    Re: repairing water line tile help

    That's alot of money! I am by no means an expert when it comes to pool tile installers, but I'm just basing this on tiling work in general - we just did our kitchen backsplash ourselves. Tile workgenerally is a very simple DIY project, and provided you have the correct materials for pools, would you consider doing it yourself? To save a few thousand, I know I would try to figure out a way. Are your tiles salvagable? Or does this quote include removing of the tiles that have not come loose?

    On a related note - pool wise....will you be able to circulate/filter the water thru a bottom drain/returns while the water level is lowered?
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    Re: repairing water line tile help

    Here is a little update -
    I had bought the adhesive & planned to do the repair, BUT, the first time my daughter went in the pool many, many more tiles came off, SO, we have decided to have all tiles removed & replaced.

    I have spoken with 3 different companies so far.

    #1 - Mentioned he will fix & reset any loose coping as well as do the job.
    Water will not be removed from pool - just lowered 6" or so.
    $2300 complete including materials

    #2 - My regular pool guy - he does my opening & closing & is good with equip repairs - not very chatty & sort of old school with technology.
    He is very cheap for open / close.
    He said around $2400 Water will not be removed from pool - just lowered 6" or so.
    Didnt mention coping
    I just bought the house 2 years ago & got him because the previous owner told me he has used him for 13 years & knows my system well.


    #3 - Big pool renovation company - coming Tues p.m. to give estimate
    He seemed quite knowledgable
    He said you definitely want to drain ALL water from the pool - then he will reset all loose coping, & do tile job in 1-2 days & then refill pool which will take 1-2 days.
    He said if you dont drain pool it would be sloppy job from someone doing tiling upside down from above - he also warned of all old mortar etc getting into water. Of course he may be much more expensive.

    I sort of want to stick with my guy only because I think he would be offended if I went elsewhere.

    What are your thoughts?
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    Re: repairing water line tile help

    Is your regular pool guy also a tile guy?
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    Re: repairing water line tile help

    Hi!
    I would have chosen the third alternative myself. The hard part is to get the tile not to slip down and doing that upside down could cause problems imho.

    As FPM said this is a very doable job for someone how is somewhat use doing things with his hands.
    Drain the pool, after you removed the tile use a grinder to remove old grout but also to make marks on the surface to improve the bonding of the tile. Mix the tile fix a little stiffer to prevent the tile from slipping down. Fix shall be applied both on the wall and on the tile this is something that should be done everytime tile is mounted outside and dont forget to prime the surface after the grinding.
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