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    Using Magic Eraser on Vinyl Liner

    I'm in the process of draining some of my pool water to reduce the CYA level. During the process I started using the magic eraser to clean the vinyl above the water line which has turned gray and black. This stuff works like magic without a lot of scrubbing. It is even taking some of the yellowish (I'm asumming iron) stains off my acrylic steps. I have no idea if this stuff is safe to use or not so I stopped and thought I should check it out with the experts. Anyone know?
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    Re: Using Magic Eraser on Vinyl Liner

    Just googled and found out it is a melamine foam. But I'm not a chemist, so that is still greek to me. I'm going to hold off on any more scrubbing until I'm sure it won't harm the liner. See below.

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    "The secret behind these types of erasers is a material commonly called melamine foam. With just a little water, melamine foam can dig in and destroy stains that other products can't touch. Kids go crazy with the crayons? Co-workers leave a trail of scuffmarks wherever they walk? Erasers made with melamine foam might be just what you need.


    Stain removal isn't the only thing this special foam is useful for. It's actually been around for about 20 years and has a variety of applications, such as sound insulation (whether to improve a room's acoustics or dampen excess noise) and temperature insulation (whether to protect against very hot or cold temperatures). It's just recently that developers realized its potential as a cleaning product.

    A couple of melamine foam's specific physical properties make it a great stain remover, and we'll dive into what those characteristics are on the next page."
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    Re: Using Magic Eraser on Vinyl Liner

    Well, I used it last year on my water line, I noticed no ill effects....

    Here's a thread from 2 years ago on the subject:

    http://www.troublefreepool.com/water...aser-t239.html
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    Re: Using Magic Eraser on Vinyl Liner

    I haven't had any problems with light scrubbing. But if you really scrub a vinyl liner with a magic eraser it can visibly scratch the liner. Often the scratches are better than the stain, but they do tend to change the appearance.
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    Re: Using Magic Eraser on Vinyl Liner

    Last year, I tried a few different methods to clean the slight but noticeable gray/tan stain along the waterline in the step section of my vinyl-lined pool - all without success. Then I saw a thread here at TFP several days ago where someone recommended a Magic Eraser. It worked superbly - also used on the waterline areas of my skimmer plate and powder-coated ladder as well as the outward edge of the white liner bead, with similar results. Just a pass or two, with very little pressure exerted. I read in other threads that melamine foam should not be used w/ chlorine but after more research the warning apparently references household-strength (5-6%) bleach.

    That said, I don't think I'd ever use one on the liner itself. I believe the primary culprit behind waterline scum is sunblock and body oils, and I've found that regular (weekly) cleaning w/ vinyl & tile cleaner and a sponge keeps the liner looking new. Take care to clean it in sections (3-5' lengths) and rinse thoroughly w/ pool water or a hose before moving to the next section.

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    Re: Using Magic Eraser on Vinyl Liner

    I've been using a product called wipeout, the only problem is that it only removes the grime where it touches so when you pour it on it drips down and when you wipe it away you can see where you missed. Although you can get around this problem by misting it on with a pump spray bottle, I used this in conjuction with the mr. clean eraser and found that the wipeout works better than the eraser since there is no real scrubbing needed just mist it on the vinyl and wipe it off. The mr. clean erasers work, it just takes time and it's basically just a micro abrasive.
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    Re: Using Magic Eraser on Vinyl Liner

    Quote Originally Posted by X-PertPool
    I've been using a product called wipeout, the only problem is that it only removes the grime where it touches so when you pour it on it drips down and when you wipe it away you can see where you missed. Although you can get around this problem by misting it on with a pump spray bottle, I used this in conjuction with the mr. clean eraser and found that the wipeout works better than the eraser since there is no real scrubbing needed just mist it on the vinyl and wipe it off. The mr. clean erasers work, it just takes time and it's basically just a micro abrasive.
    Oh by the way, Wipeout just isn't for pools it's also great for outdoor furniture and bathtubs.
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    Re: Using Magic Eraser on Vinyl Liner

    Be careful with the magic erasers on vinyl, you could potentially remove the print from the liner (at least on aged vinyl liners)

    The video requires quicktime, in the video I will rub off a small area of print. It's a little hard to see but I didn't want to discolor a large portion of the liner. Keep in mind I think only really happens on older liners where they don't feel smooth anymore, but It could potentially be doing damage that we can't see on newer liners.

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    Re: Using Magic Eraser on Vinyl Liner

    [quote=X-PertPool]
    Quote Originally Posted by "X-PertPool":2jku4wo7

    Oh by the way, Wipeout just isn't for pools it's also great for outdoor furniture and bathtubs.
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    Where do you get "wipeout"? Is it safe for the vinyl liner?
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    Re: Using Magic Eraser on Vinyl Liner

    Here is a website that sells it, you can try using Google to find other places as well.
    It works nice on vinyl outdoor furniture too,

    http://www.polytecpools.com/wipeout-vin ... -7687.html
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    Re: Using Magic Eraser on Vinyl Liner

    We get "ring around the pool" every time it rains. Our ground is greasy black clay, and the fine clay particles suspend in the air when it is dry, then rain into the pool. The end result is a greasy black line about 2 inches wide around the pool liner. When it rains here, it pours, and can easily add 2 inches in a few hours. I have been using the magic eraser since I first got the pool last year, but I have to really scrub and there is still a noticeable stain. It is much better since I put borates in the pool, but it is still there. Now, it is sounding like really scrubbing is bad for the liner and I may be damaging it. What is in the wipeout that makes the difference?
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    Re: Using Magic Eraser on Vinyl Liner

    I don't know the chemicals in wipeout but it comes with a squirt tip that you can pour on but it works much better if you can put it in a spray bottle and mist it on. I'm not sure if it works any better than a pool scumline/tile cleaner you would get a pool store but it works. The only thing to watch out for is that it will turn fiberglass steps yellow sometimes, but the yellowness goes away after it drys and if it doesn't you can use ascorbic acid to get rid of it.
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    Re: Using Magic Eraser on Vinyl Liner

    will this wipeout product remove stains above the water line? I have a yellow/brownish stain all around my pool above the water line and only where the sun hits it. In places the sun does not hit the liner, it looks new.. Only 3 yr old vinyl liner.

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