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    new BBB user

    Ok guys finally got my Good test kit.. The wife saw the kit and thought maybe i was going to build a bomb.LOL
    I said no just a clear pool
    So here are my numbers, i did them twice because i think some of them are high.. but they came out the same both times
    FC 32
    CC 0
    TC 32
    PH 7.3
    T/A 120
    CH 210 we have very hard water in this part of the world
    CYA 90 remember I was using pucks last year.. but only for about 3 months
    temp 52
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    Re: new BBB user

    Your FC level is quite high, particularly for cold water. It shouldn't cause a problem (because CYA is so high), but there is no need to keep your FC level that high. Ah, I looked at your old posts and that explains things. It would help us if you kept your discussion of your levels in one place rather than is several different topics.

    Your TA is a little high, not a big deal. Simply avoid raising TA for a while and you should be fine.

    CH is fine where it is.

    CYA is too high. I recommend bringing CYA down to 50.
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    Re: new BBB user

    Sorry jason for posting a new topic, wanted to make sure you would see it.. I will learn all the rules. just keep reminding me!!!
    I am glad that i waited to get the test kit to find out the FC. I thought it might be high.After all the clorine i put in it. Yes i see with the CYA at 90ppm the FC is not that bad. But i would rather be down around 50 or 60ppm for the CYA.
    so how much water do i take out of the pool. its kind of milky cloudy, not bad, but far from sparkly.
    thanks so much,
    jim
    And the kit is great
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    Re: new BBB user

    You should replace a little more than 1/3 of your water.

    The milky water is dead algae. It may take the filter several days to over a week to clear up the water. Keep an eye on your filter pressure and backwash/clean the filter as needed. You should see a visible improvement each day.
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    Re: new BBB user

    Jason, Is there any chance of damage to the pool linner or walls. so let me get the right, after draining 1/3 of pool and refilling,then I check the CYA and if its 50 i will keep the TC at between 4 and 6ppm. Add some bleach if its lower then 4ppm..
    thanks
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    Re: new BBB user

    Quote Originally Posted by hayfarmer
    Jason, Is there any chance of damage to the pool linner or walls. so let me get the right, after draining 1/3 of pool and refilling,then I check the CYA and if its 50 i will keep the TC at between 4 and 6ppm. Add some bleach if its lower then 4ppm..
    thanks
    jim
    Sounds like you got it. ... damage from draining 1/3 - no you should be fine with that. Lots of people drain that much for winterization.....

    My AG liner pool is down 1/3 right now.
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    When draining a vinyl liner pool, to avoid problems, you want to make sure there is at least one foot of water left in the shallow end. Also, you don't want to drain below the level of the local water table. If you live in a particularly low and wet area or it has been raining extra much and the ground is completely saturated with water then you should only drain a little at one time.

    Once you get CYA down to 50, the ideal FC range is from 4 to 8, and never below 4. Your FC level will come down as you replace water, and the lower CYA level will allow the FC level to fall more quickly.
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    Re: new BBB user

    That darn water table again

    A shallow end didn't even occur to me, thanks for pointing that out....
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    Re: new BBB user

    cool, draining as we speak. cant wait to get it back full again and then recheck. I am sure things will be better..
    I also brushed all the fine dirt to the deep end so it can go out the main drain.. kill two birds with on stone.
    thanks for all your help
    Jim

    I started a new topic maybe you could check it to..
    thanks
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    Re: new BBB user

    Hello everyone, Well i drained 1/3 of pool approx 8000 gals from pool to try and get the CYA down and the FC down..
    here are the new numbers
    FC 20
    CC 0
    TC 20
    Ph 7.6
    T/A 50
    CYA 45
    temp 58
    I cant really see if the pool is clear because its still dark out side, but last night before dark is still had a cloudy look to it.
    thanks jim
    live in eastern washington state
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    Hayward 1 hp filter pump
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    Re: new BBB user

    By the way i forgot to mention that I am using well water.
    thanks
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    Re: new BBB user

    I think the numbers look good. With that much FC any algae should be dead and the cloudyness is probably just that, dead algae. It takes time to filter it out of your pool. POP - run the filter 24/7 (backwash if necessary) and keep an eye on the FC/CC, bumping up the FC if necessary.

    Do an overnight test tonight of the FC. Check it after dark, and then retest in the morning and compare the two results. If you have a drop in the FC of more than 1ppm, you need to keep shocking. But now that your CYA level is down, so is your shock level. 16-20 is fine for you now! That 20 should drop during the day today...(sunlight). If you have a significant drop, consider a bleach addition again. Use the pool Calculator so you don't overdose on FC.

    Remember the criteria to know if you are done shocking:
    Your water is clear
    You lose less than 1ppm overnight
    Your CC is .5 or less

    As for the well water, you can test your tap water separately. Why don't you go ahead and test that for us. Metals can be a problem with well water, so you may need to head to the Pool Store and have them test for metals if you think it could be a problem.
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    Re: new BBB user

    I think i will take a sample to the pool store and check for minerals in the water. Because i know last year when they started the pool after it was built they added something to get rid of the minerals, Or so they said. Maybe they just added it to make sure i did not have any. I do belive that they checked before adding anything for that.

    here are the numbers from my tap water
    FC 0
    CC 0
    Tc 0
    Ph 7.5
    TA 160
    Ch 220
    CYA did not test for it

    I will do a TC and a CC check tonight at dark and then recheck in the morning
    Thanks for the help, can wait until it sparkles
    Thanks again
    jim
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    Re: new BBB user

    Hello
    I was wondering why I am getting so much difference between to test kits.. i have a 5 in 1 bio gaurd. And i have the TF100
    I test the TA and get two very different readings. with the bio I get 120 and with the TF100 I get 50 So which one is right. I know 50 is low but don't want to add any soda until I am sure about the reading.
    Everything looking but the TA
    FC 15 coming down
    CC 0
    TC 0
    PH 7.5
    TA 50
    Ch 220
    CYA 45
    live in eastern washington state
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    Hayward 1 hp filter pump
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    Re: new BBB user

    The TF100 uses Taylor reagents, which are the best available. I would go with the TF100 results. If you have any doubts, do the TF100 test a second time and if you get the same number then I would be very confident that that is correct.
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    Re: new BBB user

    I do get the same reading with the TF100 every time,
    So do you think i should raise the level of the TA
    Thanks for the info
    jim
    live in eastern washington state
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    Hayward 1 hp filter pump
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    Yes, raise your TA level.

    What you raise it to depends on what you use as a source of chlorine and how much trouble you have with constantly rising PH. See Recommended Levels for a starting point, and head towards the lower end of the range if you have problems with constantly rising PH and the higher end of the range if PH drift is not a problem.
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    Re: new BBB user

    yes i will raise the TA to the lower side. And yes I am using bleach
    jason thanks for all the help
    jim
    live in eastern washington state
    18x36, Vinyl inground 24k
    Hayward 1 hp filter pump
    1 skimmer/2 returns
    24" sand filter, polaris 280 with booster pump.

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    Re: new BBB user

    Quote Originally Posted by hayfarmer
    Hello
    I was wondering why I am getting so much difference between to test kits.. i have a 5 in 1 bio gaurd. And i have the TF100
    I test the TA and get two very different readings. with the bio I get 120 and with the TF100 I get 50 So which one is right. I know 50 is low but don't want to add any soda until I am sure about the reading.
    Everything looking but the TA
    FC 15 coming down
    CC 0
    TC 0
    PH 7.5
    TA 50
    Ch 220
    CYA 45
    The bioguard kits are not the best in the world, IMHO. I would trust the TF100 or a Taylor!
    Also, you were using Trichlor and one of the side effects of trichlor is lowering the TA.

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    Re: new BBB user

    Hi everyone,
    I have a question, My pool is Crystal clear and sparkling clean,, but I am wondering is it as clear as it gets or is there even better... should i be able to see the bottom and be crystal clear even in the deep end.. i can see the main drains very good but how well should i see them....here are my number from today, the FC is still coming down from being in a very heavy shock to get rid of algae.
    FC 7
    CC 0
    TC 0
    PH 7.9 little high and I am watching it
    TA 80
    CH 220
    CYA 45
    Thanks for all the help, switching to BBB
    Jim
    live in eastern washington state
    18x36, Vinyl inground 24k
    Hayward 1 hp filter pump
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