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    Pool perimeter caulking at concrete-brick-junction

    Recently finished a plumbing project under the pool’s concrete deck.
    There is “caulk” at the concrete-brick-junction (decorative brick is between concrete & pool).
    The repair area in question is about 18 inches. The concrete guy did not leave a “huge 1/3-inch gap” like the rest of the perimeter caulk area but he did round the top with his trowel & plans to inject some very hi quality caulk in it.
    No worries, right? There will be a bead of caulk, just not 1/3 inch x 1 inch deep; more like 1/5 inch wide x ¼ inch deep.
    He’s seems like a very bright contractor.
    Always wondered about that perimeter caulking because it seems like low quality & a silly design (too wide, too deep, soft material); I’ve replaced it once & repaired/added to it more than once.
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    Re: Pool perimeter caulking at concrete-brick-junction

    are you asking if the caulk with be ok?? it should be, depending on the type of caulk. Ive always used deck-o-seal good stuff.

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    Re: Pool perimeter caulking at concrete-brick-junction

    Thanks for the deck-o- seal tip. Will use it next time.
    I’m sure the caulk is OK.
    Is the fact that it’s only more like 1/5 inch wide x ¼ inch deep rather than like the rest of the primeter which is about 1/3 inch x 1 inch deep
    Thanks
    19,800 gallons (closed/winter 18,654 gal); plaster; 18x34 Ft kidney bean shape, Depth 3Ft-5Ft. Built 1992
    Pentair Whisper Flow Pump 1HP. Winter safety cover w anchors.
    Sand filter, Pentair Sand Dollar Top Mount Model SD80; Effective Filtration Area 3.5SF
    - FlowRate 75GPM, 8Hr 36,000, 10Hr 45,000, 12Hr 54,000; Pressure Weight 50PSI
    BBB (Hayward Chlorinator when leave town). Polaris 360 cleaner.

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    Re: Pool perimeter caulking at concrete-brick-junction

    HeckPools,
    I've got the Deck-o-Seal on order.
    Re the P/G primer. You use that or not? Or do you get a similar product at Lowes/Hm Depot?
    >$100 for the minimum order for the P/G Primer.
    My guess is past installers did not use a primer & that is why keeps needing remake? So no need to be cheap.
    If you have or have not used the PG or other primer, have you seen the Deck-o-Seal last a good long time.
    Sounds permanent if you do it right?
    Thanks
    19,800 gallons (closed/winter 18,654 gal); plaster; 18x34 Ft kidney bean shape, Depth 3Ft-5Ft. Built 1992
    Pentair Whisper Flow Pump 1HP. Winter safety cover w anchors.
    Sand filter, Pentair Sand Dollar Top Mount Model SD80; Effective Filtration Area 3.5SF
    - FlowRate 75GPM, 8Hr 36,000, 10Hr 45,000, 12Hr 54,000; Pressure Weight 50PSI
    BBB (Hayward Chlorinator when leave town). Polaris 360 cleaner.

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    Re: Pool perimeter caulking at concrete-brick-junction

    Mind if I ask where you purchased the deck-o-seal? I've been trying to find some and can't seem to locate a retailer. They won't sell to me direct.

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    Re: Pool perimeter caulking at concrete-brick-junction

    These guys have Primer as might local construction supply
    http://www.conelyco.com/wr.htm

    Caulk-o-seal comes in 3 or 4 pack & 1 is probably all you need.
    Pool stores will break up the caulk, constuction supply companies won't

    call the mfg 1800-542-7665 re who in your area has the Deck-o-Seal.
    Leslie's for me. But not the Primer at Leslie's
    Primer min order is ~ $100, so ok from a non-pool store

    Print that page from
    http://www.deckoseal.com/787.htm
    because you need to figure how much to order & a few other details.

    Any concrete guys out there? Are primers at Lowes OK? Caulk-o-Seal is an elastomeric, polysulfide-based joint sealant- so if it says its comaptible w that, then I guess so? But I don't want to be cheap & stupid.
    19,800 gallons (closed/winter 18,654 gal); plaster; 18x34 Ft kidney bean shape, Depth 3Ft-5Ft. Built 1992
    Pentair Whisper Flow Pump 1HP. Winter safety cover w anchors.
    Sand filter, Pentair Sand Dollar Top Mount Model SD80; Effective Filtration Area 3.5SF
    - FlowRate 75GPM, 8Hr 36,000, 10Hr 45,000, 12Hr 54,000; Pressure Weight 50PSI
    BBB (Hayward Chlorinator when leave town). Polaris 360 cleaner.

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    Re: Pool perimeter caulking at concrete-brick-junction

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny B
    HeckPools,
    I've got the Deck-o-Seal .
    Re the P/G primer. You use that or not? Or do you get a similar product at Lowes/Hm Depot?
    >$100 for the minimum order for the P/G Primer.
    If you have or have not used the PG or other primer, have you seen the Deck-o-Seal last a good long time.
    Thanks
    Drats, no concrete guys around. Anyone?

    Re my prior post about "he repair area in question is about 18 inches. The concrete guy did not leave a “huge 1/3-inch wide gap” like the rest of the perimeter caulk area but he did round the top with his trowel & plans to inject some very hi quality caulk in it."
    Here are photos of the area of my concern:
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    19,800 gallons (closed/winter 18,654 gal); plaster; 18x34 Ft kidney bean shape, Depth 3Ft-5Ft. Built 1992
    Pentair Whisper Flow Pump 1HP. Winter safety cover w anchors.
    Sand filter, Pentair Sand Dollar Top Mount Model SD80; Effective Filtration Area 3.5SF
    - FlowRate 75GPM, 8Hr 36,000, 10Hr 45,000, 12Hr 54,000; Pressure Weight 50PSI
    BBB (Hayward Chlorinator when leave town). Polaris 360 cleaner.

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    Re: Pool perimeter caulking at concrete-brick-junction

    Same pool & A DIFFERENT area of concern I'd like help with.
    History of reapair about 1 year ago because the deck/concrete slab pulled away from the pool & left a huge gap; too large a gap to just add caulk or re-caulk, had to pour concrete (should have used cement since the deck is cement or makes no difference?)

    A bead of the (wrong?) caulk was placed (poor adhesion and or still some slab movement?). Then this area underwent the winter & here is what happened (from poor adhesion and or still some slab movement?).
    The two brick chip photos show best the very small bead of caulk that failed; looking at the other two photos you may wrongly think the lighter colored area is the new failed caulk- no, that is the new concrete.
    Photo "2of " shows that even the new concrete repair is failing. Should I chip out just bits of the failing concrete to create an ideal half-inch gap & pour Deck-o-Seal, or, shoud I remove the entire repair & start over using cement & be sure to leave a more ideal gap. I can tell you the surfaces were not primed at any time during the repair.
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    19,800 gallons (closed/winter 18,654 gal); plaster; 18x34 Ft kidney bean shape, Depth 3Ft-5Ft. Built 1992
    Pentair Whisper Flow Pump 1HP. Winter safety cover w anchors.
    Sand filter, Pentair Sand Dollar Top Mount Model SD80; Effective Filtration Area 3.5SF
    - FlowRate 75GPM, 8Hr 36,000, 10Hr 45,000, 12Hr 54,000; Pressure Weight 50PSI
    BBB (Hayward Chlorinator when leave town). Polaris 360 cleaner.

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    Re: Pool perimeter caulking at concrete-brick-junction

    My thinking is & feel free to comment: do the entire pool perimeter now except this problem area. Remove & redo the entire concrete repair & leave a bettter gap- but this is very messy & best done w the cover on & perhaps the cooler weather will better concrete conditions in that the slab is contracted so the gap will be larger natuarally

    Final photo:
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    19,800 gallons (closed/winter 18,654 gal); plaster; 18x34 Ft kidney bean shape, Depth 3Ft-5Ft. Built 1992
    Pentair Whisper Flow Pump 1HP. Winter safety cover w anchors.
    Sand filter, Pentair Sand Dollar Top Mount Model SD80; Effective Filtration Area 3.5SF
    - FlowRate 75GPM, 8Hr 36,000, 10Hr 45,000, 12Hr 54,000; Pressure Weight 50PSI
    BBB (Hayward Chlorinator when leave town). Polaris 360 cleaner.

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