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  1. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    Awesome to hear you survived! As somehow, warm weather always precedes these blasts in Texas, if the forecast calls for 3+ days, I may opt to take the warm weather opportunity and heat prior to buy any buffer. I have good data from the last two cold blasts to see where things are. I do agree...
  2. DB-Cooper

    Temporary pad shelters

    I have just a simple metal roof on wood posts. I put hooks on them and wrap a tarp around those hooks. Not an air tight shelter by any regard, but keeps it dry and out of the wind chill.
  3. DB-Cooper

    Pentair Mastertemp 125 heater won't turn on.

    It’s not well documented, but I believe MasterTemps have some sort of safety disable feature when water temps are cold. I believe they just completely shutdown if water temps are below 40. No panel, no response. I remember in Feb 2021, I made a last ditch effort to save the pool and the heater...
  4. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    Brutal. We're hitting 72F today, small overnight freeze Friday night into Saturday morning. I just checked your forecast, you've got 2-3 more days of this. Ugh, I feel your pain.
  5. DB-Cooper

    Freeze in North Texas

    Backflow for your auto-fill? I shut mine off, leave the plunger in my pool open and then drain the RPZ/Backflow (takes 30 seconds).
  6. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    We're starting to warm up and appear to be headed out of the woods. Yesterday, my water temp briefly hit a reported 34F before switching back to 35F once the sun came out. We hit 32.2F air temp for less than 10 minutes yesterday, removing that we will have spent ~80 hours below freezing. Last...
  7. DB-Cooper

    Freeze in North Texas

    I did exactly this yesterday as my water temperatures were getting nervously too low. I didn't want water sitting in pipes for 15 minutes at a time. For me, I just put both my 2-way valves into service and manually put them in the middle. I then monitored my spa, and I saw that it was slowly...
  8. DB-Cooper

    Freeze in North Texas

    When you said water was barely flowing, is that because the ice was getting too deep or that the water temp in the pump was so low it was starting to freeze? What was the reported temp of the water by the automation?
  9. DB-Cooper

    Ice Ice....

    That's honestly exactly what I thought!
  10. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    Ice hump is gone (although a small piece slid down into the pool and is floating (about the size of a popsicle). Pool is now reporting 35F, so clearly the sun is doing something as it's still only 24F air temp.
  11. DB-Cooper

    Ice Ice....

    Are those fountains that are freezing? What's your reported water temperature?
  12. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    Yeah, it looks like some of the ice hump on the tile line has melted where it's getting sun. Dark blue glass likes the sun. We're still at 22F air temp and a light breeze, only about 20% of the pool is in full sun right now.
  13. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    My pool isn't a good comparison. A friend of mine two blocks over told me his pool last night was 46F while mine was 38F. I'm sure he's still in the 40s. My pool is effectively above ground, and it's entirely northern facing and exposed to more wind that the typical backyard in-ground pool. That...
  14. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    Haha, I was skeptical after the first photo, but the guy really sells it in the second! How are you doing? Memphis has gotten two waves of real bad weather throughout this!
  15. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    Yesterday, I was reporting 38F all day. The moment the sun went down it started to creep down, 37 before I was in bed. Woke up to pee around 2am, 36, and then at 5-6am when I woke up for good, 35F. It's holding their now. We've got sun finally. Due to last night's higher winds, I had some wind...
  16. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    What temp are you at now?
  17. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    You didn't mention opening the filter drain plug and multi-port drain plug. I do agree though, try to get as much of the filter water back into the pool.
  18. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    I wonder what the water temperature was. For example, if the pool water is 30F, it sits in that pipe for 30 minutes. It also doesn't get a bang, instead the valve introduces more water at the same temperature. If you watch the bottle YouTube videos, it seems the water has no issue sloshing...
  19. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    So this still supercooled water sits in a 2” pipe still for 15 min, then the valve opens and it gets movement, does it harden immediately?
  20. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    Since it's obvious you are 1000x more educated on this, going back to my earlier questions: Let's say the actual water temperature goes below 32F as reported by the thermometer. Since water is fed from main drains and skimmers, that water would be representing the basic temperature of pretty...
  21. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    Yeah, that's what broke my previous fountains which were huge soup bowls of snow, and basically it blocked the pump from pumping water. I've since replaced those with side facing sheers which are performing real well! Fortunately, for this storm, there's no snow in the forecast at all.
  22. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    I generally agree, and if I was leaving town, I'd do it, but as I said in my last post, there is a bit of hassle, repriming, etc. Also, last time I drained, I still had pipe damage (which was fortunately easily accessible).
  23. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    I mentioned it earlier, but what led me to pull the plug was that I had already lost my accessory water fountain pump. I've since gotten rid of those fountains and replaced them with sheers. At the coldest point, with significant fluffy snow dropping from the sky, I witnessed that my fountain...
  24. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    I'm not sure the pool will just freeze into an entire block "quickly" once it goes below 32F. Feb 2021, my water temp was already below 32F before I dumped the pad and gave up. As you stated, the pool pump was running so the entirety of the water was circulating and it was basically that temp...
  25. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    I should've asked, what was your starting point, and how long have you been stuck at 36?
  26. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    JJ_Tex, Appreciate the update, it's always good to know I've got friends in the same battle!
  27. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    Wow, stepped away and this thread got busy. Well as reported by Pentair, my pool water is reporting at 39F. We've been freezing for ~33 hours now, we might hit 31F this afternoon. . We have another cold night tonight and more hopeful for just getting into the mid-30s tomorrow, another cold...
  28. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    Thanks for the detailed answer!!!
  29. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    Yeah, not worth it, I'll just drain again. As you said, probably ok, but you just never know...
  30. DB-Cooper

    Advice on running pool heater for a day ahead of polar vortex

    On the draining note, if I drain all pumps, heaters and multi-ports, along with leaving all valves open, should I drain the filter? I'd think if I vented the top of the filter, gravity alone would dump the filter contents through the multi-port. Presumably there's a little area in the bottom...