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    Will bleach damage my above ground vinyl pool?

    My point is, mine and apparently many others' liners were bleached out completely, by bleach. If the water had had no chlorine in it, the ink would still be there. That's not to say that bleach is the sole source of the "problem". Low quality inks and age likely play a part too. But it is most...
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    Will bleach damage my above ground vinyl pool?

    I'm afraid I have to disagree with one of the most experienced posters on here. I will qualify though. Bleach will "bleach" just about anything at high enough concentrations. The thread below, I started, discusses the causes. Most likely for me is aging and low quality inks. It seems to be...
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    2016 bleach prices

    Verdict is in. Top Job worked out to be 1.4%! 96 oz for $1. So $.74/oz percent. Pass.
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    2016 bleach prices

    Another similar thread started: Liquid chlorine http://www.troublefreepool.com/showthread.php/t%3D125972&share_tid=125972&share_fid=4767&share_type=t
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    2016 bleach prices

    I wrote HASA through their web contact form because a search showed they have a location in Bryan, TX. It turns out it is a manufacturing location. No retail sales. So they referred me to a couple of pool stores. $4.50/gal in recyclable containers for 12.5% and $6/gal in disposable jugs for 10%...
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    2016 bleach prices

    I'll be able to put the debate to bed soon. I bought 2 jugs just to try out. The dates on the bottles I bought were 222.
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    2016 bleach prices

    Yes, you are right... 'Top Job'. Almost everything else there is 'somebody's choice'. So 6-7%? The pool essentials 10% was $2.50 for 128oz, therefore, $.195 per ounce percent. Assuming 6% for 96 oz at $1, that is $.173 per ounce percent. And 7% would be $.149 per ounce percent. Is my math...
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    2016 bleach prices

    Same at our Wal-marts. All pool supplies have been replaced with college student supplies. The Great Value 8.25% was $2.96/121oz. There is a $1/64oz "Top Choice" but it doesn't have a concentration and I couldn't find anything about it online. I bought a couple jugs. I'm going to try them in the...
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    Anybody have their Intex AGP liner lose its color?

    So you are trying to 'sanitize' the conversation? That sounds like censorship! Hey, it's not my board... [emoji12] I was only half kidding about the sparkling clearness of the water being a contributing cause. As one responder said, with the fading being below the water line, it's not JUST UV...
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    Anybody have their Intex AGP liner lose its color?

    That is the conclusion I reached as well. This year being the 3rd year of life for my liner, it is an Intex pool, and I have been within the cya/fc zone all year where last year I was likely below it much of the time add up to ink that finally gave up. And the parallel conclusion is that...
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    Anybody have their Intex AGP liner lose its color?

    I figured someone on this board was going to be offended by my question. But if you follow the logic, the bleach is a natural conclusion. And your insinuation that TFP has exposed my liner to less chemicals is surely wrong. On the contrary, when I was treating with dichlor and tabs, my cya level...
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    Anybody have their Intex AGP liner lose its color?

    Yeah, I was happy to pin it on her but she's actually pretty good at testing. Then she calls me and I look up the quantity to add via pool math. My CYA has been at 50 and I've been running FC between 5 and 9. That may not be exact. I go by pool math. Whatever it says. I've been using Wal-Mart...
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    Anybody have their Intex AGP liner lose its color?

    Mine was fine until about a month ago when it started bleaching out very fast. Everything below the water line but the bottom is almost completely white while the sides still have a little bit of color. This is the first year I have used bleach to treat the pool. So I have three theories. 1...
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    Anybody have their Intex AGP liner lose its color?

    All of the color in mine has gone away below the water line. It's just white now. I've been pretty religious about keeping the FC level inside the FC/CYA chart. I did SLAM once for 4 days with one overshoot but the fading started well after. It happened over about a month, or maybe three weeks...
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    Time to Rant........

    Ha! I just opened up my app to write about the nasty pool at the Holiday Inn I just came from! I wanted to take a picture of it to post but there were people in it and that might be weird. They wouldn't realize I was taking a picture of the water, not their kids in their swimsuits. :gross: I...
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    2016 bleach prices

    I don't think that would shock a pool unless you had an overactive SWG. Just kidding. Did you mean sodium hypochlorite? Wal-Mart College Station TX 10% is still $2.50 mis marked $3.56/gal. Most of it is marked 16036 date code. I pulled out a little marked 16056. It is working pretty close to...
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    Wow, I wish I had seen this forum years ago!

    I see the baseball series in in SC this year. That should be a good one. Wish I could be there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    2016 bleach prices

    I went to my local Wal-Mart supercenter, College Station, TX to pick up some of the 10% Pool Essentials I read about on here. It was marked $3.56 instead of $2.50 so I was a little bummed, but still a decent price. I picked up 9 gallons. They must have had 300 gallons in the display. Just now as...
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    Wow, I wish I had seen this forum years ago!

    Re: Wow, I wish I had seen this forum 3 years ago Yes, I can see the negativity towards pool stores and how it is usually warranted. I did get lucky in that my independent pool store seems more focused on its customers enjoying their pools than keeping their chem suppliers happy. (They...
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    Wow, I wish I had seen this forum years ago!

    Re: Wow, I wish I had seen this forum 3 years ago My results suggest otherwise. Maybe I have just been lucky for the last two years. Or maybe I have a 6th sense that can detect free chlorine levels and can instinctively react properly. Or, maybe, while not as accurate as a new FAS-DPD test, I...
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    Wow, I wish I had seen this forum years ago!

    Re: Wow, I wish I had seen this forum 3 years ago I see you are passionate about pool care. That is some of what attracted me here. I know sometimes written words can come off wrong so I won't take it personally but you appear preachy and abrupt in your presentation. The attitude that I can...
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    Wow, I wish I had seen this forum years ago!

    Re: Wow, I wish I had seen this forum 3 years ago I have a Taylor I've been using the last few years but it is just a 1001. It only does FC and PH. My old Wal-mart kit had the other reagents but I'm out of most. I like the Taylor kit so I think I'll order the 5001 or whichever model I saw...
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    Wow, I wish I had seen this forum years ago!

    Re: Wow, I wish I had seen this forum 3 years ago These aren't precisely 'before' or 'after' pics... kind of 'almost after'. Just shows the big mess I made. This is the filled pool and the deck I made two years ago when I first put this pool up. It was an upgrade from a 16' Intex AGP. Here...
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    Wow, I wish I had seen this forum years ago!

    Re: Wow, I wish I had seen this forum 3 years ago Well it looks like there are a few fans on here. That makes it even more fun. I am '97 and former Corps of Cadets as well. It is fun living in the city of my Alma Mater. OK, OK, pictures to come when I get home today.
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    Wow, I wish I had seen this forum years ago!

    I ran across you guys while searching for a raspberry pi hot tub controller. After browsing the forums, it looks like a wealth of information on pool maintenance. I muddled around for three years trying to figure out how to take care of my AGP's. This place would have saved me lots of time and...