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  1. VinylDelight

    Just at freezing (30 +/- F) but also water level rising from rain...?

    I simply put a regular red brick just in front of the jet so that it doesn't shoot into the pool and basically gets thrown back in it's "face" :oops:
  2. VinylDelight

    Just at freezing (30 +/- F) but also water level rising from rain...?

    Brief update to make sure I'm not a fool, or at this point determine if so... but I wasn't realistically on pace to beat the rain and get to sleep with the passive hose deal... and after looking at the pentair manual I really didn't want to screw something up so what I did was simply obstruct...
  3. VinylDelight

    Just at freezing (30 +/- F) but also water level rising from rain...?

    Quickly went out there (didnt have a camera sorry) and the pool filter actually wont turn off pushing the button since it is in FRZ mode. The air temp read 33F and the pool was 45. I did buy a submersible sump pump late last night (worrying about pool :( ) from greenworks via Amazon. It won't...
  4. VinylDelight

    Just at freezing (30 +/- F) but also water level rising from rain...?

    So do I presume it is safe to backwash so in 30F? Would it be better to use something else like rinse?
  5. VinylDelight

    Just at freezing (30 +/- F) but also water level rising from rain...?

    My skimmers are my levels and we had some rain and the water is basically at the top of the inlet. Normally I would backwash to mid-level of the skimmer rectangle, but I am getting really poor results from Google on whether or not that is a problem. It seems far too risky considering the...
  6. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    After a lot of time and steady progress I feel like the pool is swimmable but it's Dang cold lol. I have some new questions though... I let the FC drift down and now it is 5 on the powder FAS-DPD chlorine test (CC was 0), but the daily test kit using yellow r0600 is a deep yellow that actually...
  7. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    So the pool has been clearing up for sure, albeit slowly... losing the green but certainly still cloudy blue. The night prior I did the OCLT and came back 0 loss of chlorine from midnight and then again at 9 am. So my question is, given there are no more biologics, can you back off the chlorine...
  8. VinylDelight

    Post-SLAM, can a vacuum robot+filter replace a vacuum?

    I believe I do. I actually went to their site and oddly they link their products to an Amazon storefront, which uses a SEO talk and is generally not great for the customer. I have the papery accordian style filter installed right now, but there is also a screendoor looking filter I have on hand...
  9. VinylDelight

    Post-SLAM, can a vacuum robot+filter replace a vacuum?

    Music to my ears. Thank you.
  10. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    Note to self: An ounce of shock is worth 5 gallons of chlorine... Next time I think I see algae that pool is getting blasted. Is it normal for pool owners to make late night runs to Walmart for a cart full of chlorine? I felt like Heisenberg or something lol.
  11. VinylDelight

    Post-SLAM, can a vacuum robot+filter replace a vacuum?

    So I'm currently SLAMing my pool because it had algae growth, and on day 2 or 3 now it has started to get that cloudy blue. However, I don't own a vacuum and was wondering, can a robot (if turned on numerous times per day) with the help of the filter actually clear the dead algae or is this...
  12. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    Pool shallow end has gotten noticeably cloudy blue over the course of today. That's good news. Will pick up some more chlorine and test tonight.
  13. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    Excellent advice once again, thank you. For what it's worth, this morning was 16 FC and the CC (I'm really just doing it because it is part of the same process and I know not to base changes around this until my pool clears up) was maybe .5, which is my question: After adding the R-0003 the...
  14. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    You are right, because I was not sure if my CYA was high 30s or mid 40s (I did the CYA test I believe 5 times and basically high 30s twice and mid 40s and I know you round up here... but as a newb I try to err on the "safe" side/mid), I chose the middle because someone said there is overlap...
  15. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    So what do these symptoms mean to a pool pro? 9AM FC 14 CC .5 Added 1 gallon 10% chlorine 7:30PM FC dropped to 12 CC dropped to 0 Pool looks just as bad as yesterday (swampy green). From What I gather CC should be indicative of contaminants in the water, but mine is 0 so that's what I'm...
  16. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    Thank you both. I definitely know that the SLAM is only done after all 3 are satisfied but I just wasn't sure what it meant that CC is so low. Also, I stopped testing the pH after starting SLAM but my best guess was that my pH was still on the high end. And now I'm just kind of thinking it all...
  17. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    Ok so update has me confused (this is unchanged), and I did the FC test this morning and it came back 14, but the CC came back .5 -- it was barely pink after adding the 5 drops. (Bear in mind, this is the second time I've done this test, and although I read the instructions over 10 times and...
  18. VinylDelight

    TF pro CYA test -- Sunlight, back turned, confusion...

    So I read somewhere that you should have your back turned to the sunlight when doing the black dot CYA test, but I also read that basically you just add water until you cannot see the black dot... and of course I read that this test is one of the most ambiguous for newbies... so here's the...
  19. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    Update: I did the slow hose drain until tonight and was ready to shock... but to do so I need new measurements, mainly being CYA (I know it's lower, but how much I suppose considering my very slow process) and then the pH (according to SLAM walk through). My main questions now are: Is there...
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  21. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    Wow, this all seems crazy now... how much each puck adds. The prior owner used this pool for about 2 years and they told me they strictly used the pucks, and I wouldn't need to mess with anything else like jugs of chemicals. Were they simply running a ticking time bomb? Honestly they made it...
  22. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    So I've seen the ranges often mentioned for target CYA, but it seems like the ranges are large and I don't know enough to know if you want to be low or middle, especially since CYA seems to be a "creeper" type number. (From what I've gathered, you shouldn't need to drain a pool for CYA lowering...
  23. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    Yea for sure you are right. I just was wondering how much I guess. I did manage to get the Pentair in "service" mode to pause all that. So I was wondering, do people that don't use a pool in the winter months just let their pool turn green? Other than running the chems and filters year round...
  24. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    So this morning my schedule turned on and the filter ran, but I knew I was doing this drain thing again so it didn't run an hour. How bad is it to run the filter while draining? Obviously it's not a good idea, but I also don't know how bad it is -- after all, water osmosis and stuff will even...
  25. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    So, with the pool filter off and the inlet and outlet hoses going, where should I dip into the pool for a sample of water to test for CYA? I was thinking I should do that tomorrow morning to see if I'm making any headway, or at least reasonable headway; then decide whether or not to go out and...
  26. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    Thank you again, first of all. It seems like we're on the same page here... I know I need to lower CYA at this point, I think part of me just wanted to blast this green pool asap. The hose I was using is just one of the good rubber craftsman garden hoses according to I'm actually draining it...
  27. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    I read that page on draining and tested the hose drain, which did work, although with just the passive nature of it it did seem super slow. Am I foolish to try this method? (The chlorine comes tomorrow for shocking.) The page talks about TDS and temperature. I'm on city water and it's roughly...
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  29. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    Thank you so much for all the info so far. I've learned quite a bit! As far as the pentair system, it's probably way more than I need to learn about personally for now and really the only reason I bring it up is because it means a lot more to you folks right now to me. I had a beautiful clear...
  30. VinylDelight

    Correct order to backwash sand filter and empty that basket? ( + green taking over!)

    Ok, here are 4 photos -- because I am a total newb, and I want to try to do my best to avoid future embarassment and loss of $$$ -- to try to ensure we are on the same page. The first photo is the system -- i have no idea what it really does other than on and off. I've just been flicking the...