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    Cost to use natural gas heater

    "EDIT: OOPS. I made a boo-boo. A BTU raises one pound of water one degree, not a gallon! Multiply the cost by 7.5" Richard, did you mean to convert from gallons to pounds? If so, the conversion is 8.25 lbs/gallon - you may have been thinking conversion of cubic feet to gallons, multiplying...
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    Tell me how YOU have DEFEATED Mustard Algae?

    Regarding Aldi bleach: I used it quite a bit last year and had no problems - as long as the chlorine level in your pool goes up roughly according to the pool calculator, it should be fine. All bleach has a shelf life, but the bottom line, are you getting your free chlorine level to the point...
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    Tell me how YOU have DEFEATED Mustard Algae?

    We had an outbreak of mustard algae after I let the chlorine level get too low (< 2, I believe); got it up to mustard shock level for 24 hrs - then when the chlorine came down to normal levels, another outbreak - I did not pull the pool light out and clean the cavity the first time shocking -...
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    Filtering out dead Mustard Algae

    Thanks for such quick responses! - good suggestions all - I will look into the channeling possibility first, but the gasket/o-ring on the main valve is aso a real possibility since this is an old filter and valve. The DE option is also a good suggestion - turns out, we have some of that lying...
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    Filtering out dead Mustard Algae

    I haven't posted here for a while because the information on this site is so thorough and accurate that I rarely have needed to ask questions. But, now I'm up against a lee shore. We are having a wedding at our house this coming weekend for my daughter, with 100+ folks coming from all over...
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    Cover or no cover

    Rebecca - I would agree that simplest is best (and generally less expensive). Our pool's skimmer must not be as efficient as yours - we only have 1 skimmer and a deep end drain for a 25 K gallon pool. Lots of leaves get caught in the skimmer, but more eventually fall to the bottom and...
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    Keeping clean until winterization? Tips and Suggestions

    It seems there are two times of the year when we fight algae the most: in the spring and early summer when there is lots of pollen and "stuff" getting into the pool - and in early fall, when leaves fall in - I have to keep the chlorine especially high during these times. We used a leaf net last...
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    Mustard algae can grow in FC > 41

    mustard algae = devil turds with a CYA of 70, chlorine to kill mustard algae will be very high; check the chorine/CYA chart.
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    I did something stupid

    Steve B: I don't think the Amur is the same carp that is taking over the Great Lakes. However, to emphasize, they are supposed to be sterile, so you need to buy from a licensed seller, if you decide to use the Amur fish. They have grown to be 4 feet long after a very long time in our pond...
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    I did something stupid

    Has your pond guy suggested grass carp? We have a spring-fed pond. My parents bought sterile grass carp (also called Amur fish) many years ago - they eat primarily algae. They have been effective for nearly 20 years - several are almost 4 feet in length now! Sometimes the algae will build...
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    Leak - Driving me nuts

    A couple of years ago we were experiencing significant leakage through our aging vinyl liner, mainly at the corner where the vertical steel wall meets the vermiculite-bottomed slope in the deep end. It was difficult to see the leak because of the speckled liner pattern. Turns out it was slightly...
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    Cover or no cover

    After our mesh loop-lock cover rotted away, I was looking for an economical (read, "cheap" ) way to keep leaves, branches, etc. out of our pool. Use a leaf net - it worked to some extent, but enough "stuff" worked its way down into the pool, that I had a week's worth of work to clear the greeen...
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    Foam and Cloudy Water

    I've had a similar scenario as you this spring - a number of very warm days in early spring turned our pool into the emerald green swamp. I hooked up plumbing, got the circulation going, started shocking, etc. last Saturday. The water first turned light green, then deep cloudy blue, lighter...
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    Partial drain

    oops! :oops: ... never mind..... Well, if I haven't totally lost my credibility, here is my two cents on partial drain: if you have obvious algae and dirt on the bottom, I think it would be best to vacuum as much of that to waste as possible, but replenish the water at the same time to keep...
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    Partial drain

    Don't know if this is relevant or not, but this week I have been going through pool opening, shocking, etc., and during the FC test, the color change after adding the powder takes much longer to appear than in the summer - presumably due to cold water (about 58 F); then, immediately after...
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    refurbished Del ozone generator

    We had a DelOzone Trio-Pure for three years (pool seasons). The Trio-Pure is a combined ozonator/swcg, and while the concept was good and the unit did the job when it was operating correctly, there were several problems we encountered related to quality control of the product: cracked plastic...
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    Hilarious Pool Video

    Great video - I can relate - not to the number of pools, but the number of pool toys - I need a Ned!
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    Time to reflect upon our TFPs and the 2010 season

    In agreement with all the posts on this thread - I discovered this site in early spring this year - I had done alot of pool research before that, but there is much conflicting information out there among "pool professionals", which can be very confusing. The TFP site is remarkably consistent...
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    Blood pressure myth?

    Yes, there are a number of problems with EcoSmarte's information - first, they mention the sodium threat and the 3000 to 5000 ppm level required for SWCG pools in the same sentence, implying there is 3000 to 5000 ppm sodium - the 3000 to 5000 ppm is part sodium, part chloride - not all sodium...
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    Blood pressure myth?

    I'll second what teapot posted. Also, here's a thought - perhaps the "article" was referring to full-on saltwater pools - that is, pools that use sea-water for the water supply - or, perhaps the "article" was confusing SWCG pools with salt-water (ie, sea-water) pools- either through ignorance...
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    Cover or no cover

    Good point Anemone - perhaps they are generally not as sturdy as regular covers - however, leaves aren't that heavy unless they are wet and the net allows the water to pass through. As for anchoring it, I was thinking of using bungy cords or ropes through the grommets and tying to our fence -...
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    Cover or no cover

    We inherited our pool and it came with a dense mesh cover with lock-loops (set into the pool's conrete apron). It let in water but, for the most part, kept out major leaves and branches. We didn't blow off or remove the leaves, so many of them decayed on the cover and the sediment and...
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    Best way and Fast way to get rid of this

    ok, don't know how that happened but in my last post, the quote was from gorgio1, not Kenmar; sorry.
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    Best way and Fast way to get rid of this

    Gorgio1: My advice would be to go ahead and get the TF-100 test kit even though it's late in the season - it will help you finish out the year with a clean pool and the reagents should be good through next season, I believe (duraleigh, check me on that - will the reagents keep through next...
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    swimming pool covers???

    Thanks for the info Durk - about $400 is better than $800, by half :) I will likely try that setup this year - sounds like it should also ease our opening next spring. "I see you are next to a forest. I am, too, with lots of pin-oaks that keep shedding leaves until April." What!? A...
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    swimming pool covers???

    We have a trampoline-type cover set-up, but the cover finally rotted through and we will need a new one this fall. It was a dense mesh - allowed water to filter through, but not large pieces of brush; however, decomposed leaf litter still made its way into the pool over winter with the...
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    Rain turned pool orange !!!!

    :idea: How about temperature change? Cooler temperature rainwater - decreases iron solubility, iron precipitates, orange water. Or, increase in oxygen level, leading to ferric iron (tri-valent) as opposed to ferrous iron, the more soluble form.
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    Rain turned pool orange !!!!

    I think the idea of iron precipitating out after a pH change is sound, except for the fact that rainwater is slightly to moderately acidic; normally in the 5 to 6 range due to dissolved carbon dioxide (carbonic acid), but could be more acidic near urban areas due to air pollutants. I don't have...
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    Someone tell me one reason to not get a SWG

    We had a SWCG for several years - the only reason we gave it up is that the device failed, warranty expired, and we didn't have the budget for a new one. The amount of salt needed for a Salt Water Chlorine Generator is about 3,000 to 4,000 ppm, about 1/10th that of sea water. 3,000 to 4,000 is...
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    What kind of filter do you have?

    My brother-in-law and I have joked we should retire from our current professions and open a pool business - he would be the chief mechanic/electrician and I, the chief chemist. Between the two of us, we keep the family pool (inherited - now owned by 5 households and 23 years old) humming and in...