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I am currently having a pool built and they are installing a spillover spa. The spa will stick out of the ground about 12". I have been getting some conflicting information on how this is supposed to be winterized, and its different for a spa that is elevated vs level with the ground. Should...

@Rich D Dirt is not something i have a shortage of. After back fill they will move some of that around back to form a more gradual grade. They will be scraping the sod layer anywhere decking will be and then i will cover it with the fabric. re: collar drain, at this point the only thing i...

Im doing all 3/4" stone. i didn't want to mess with compacting any base. I "Think" 75 tons will do the backfill and the 10-12 feet in the front and back of pool. It will cost me about 2200 bucks delivered, plus the 1k the builder is charging me for labor since they normally don't do it. End...

So I am finally at Backfill. I will post some pics in a bit. So I have still been looking to better prices for gravel to no avail. there are just no quarries that deliver to my area that dont just the price up for the distance. To make matters worse the place that I found the rock the cheapest...

Ok that makes wayyyy more sense then. The pics you took don’t have a straight shot down the other side so it looks like it doesn’t stick out as much. Way better if it’s symmetrical on both sides.

The bulge on the side of the pool with the skimmer would drive me nuts. Is there a reason there is a bulge there and that side of the pool does not go straight? Id expect it to follow the strait out side line of the concrete.

why would they brace the insides? I would think that would only need bracing if the bottom wasn't on flat hard ground.

I couldn't agree more on the manifold part. Im bit of a plumbing dork, I love doing plumbing. Issue is there is a line between lending an idea and telling the guy how to do his job. He tried to step down to 1 1/2" on the spa and I put a squash on that. His argument was the pump outlets were...

Had a bunch of rain the past week, pool drains very well, that water was gone in a day Plumbing in

So i found someone local that has something called R-Blend(#2). It consists of Crushed concrete, asphalt, brick, some sandy dirt. They said they use it to put down under roads. Would this work for under the decking? I assume stick to the #57 gravel for backfilling the pool for drainage? I...

how much does that fabric cost? Do they sell it online? Can’t seem to find a place that lists prices. I need like 900 sqft. as for the crushed concrete, that price is delivered. I can ask where they get their gravel. I’m pretty sure they just find a local yard. what is the farthest a...

Clayton is more $$. Jackson Quarry, i see the address but they don't have a phone number. The place im getting it from is the cheapest in a 30 mile radius. I called them today and they said that crushed concrete is 14.50/ton so that may help the situation. Can you give me a link to the base...

Well weekend is here and im on vacation next week to i guess its time to drink/sleep on it :)

So it doesnt matter that the builders dirt has been compacting for 6 years?

like 6 bucks a ton difference

Ok, let me play Devils Advocate here. I did some quick calculations, right now the cheapest place i can find #57 is 26.50 a ton. It looks like (doing your plan) that It will take over 150 tons (6+ truckloads) to backfill the pool and the concrete area. So Im looking at for arguments sake...

You can see in the last pic , that was dirt trucked in.

The soil here is sandy, the builder trucked in the fill and also had a large berm in the back yard from the foundation overdig. I was here when they were building the house and saw it from start to finish. Al that sand is virgin ground.

I guess I just don’t know enough about all this. I was under the impression I could put the concrete over undisturbed soil. Are you all saying I should be removing 4’ of soil everywhere I plan to install concrete? the change in soil color I think you are seeing is from fill that the builder...

Both the shallow and deep ends of the pool, I can assure you are on virgin sand ground. The spa shelf is just that, a shelf for the spa to slip into. The base of the spa where all the weight transfers onto will be sitting on cinder blocks that come in complete contact with the virgin sand...

No Collar. They are doing a vermiculite floor. I dont really have any issues with ground water here and below all that top soil is compact sand that hasn't been dug out prior to this so its fairly solid. The issue I am going to have with the decking base is that no one around here goes...

where would I put the drain? I’d assume the patio will slope away from the pool? what kind of material would be used for road base? Can I use crushed concrete?

Its about 4500.00 to move it back, just not in the cards right now. I am planing on backfilling the over dig with gravel. Are you saying to remove all of the dirt from around the pool and bring in "other material" to bring up the height to the top of the steel walls and grade out everywhere...

I am Actually going to be moving that shed too, so it will be completely out of the way. yes, he is doing the decking and also putting stone surrounding the spa. something similar to this

Thank you so much for that explanation, this makes it much clearer. they are installing the walls today the height doesn’t look as bad as I thought. Here is a pic: The back is definitely higher

That white stake is supposed to be the height this is the survey with elevations

I’m not following this part at all. I assume the grade from the pool edge would grade down away from the pool. So over a 10ft span it should drop down going toward the shed.