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    Hayward spa light won’t turn off

    ajw: Thanks for the follow-up. As I mentioned in my initial post, yes, I have Colorlogic with the remote and the ability to program various color schemes into my light system, and I can set aux slots to handle various combinations of things (with a limited number of slots available). That's...
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    Hayward spa light won’t turn off

    Had a chance to dig in a little more today with some testing, interesting insights. I have 3 lights (2 pool, 1 spa). I also have 3 light programs... 1 for all lights white (Lights relay), 1 for pool lights color program (aux 1), 1 for spa light color program (aux 5). I typically just turn on...
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    Hayward spa light won’t turn off

    Jim: Thanks for the prompt reply! Makes sense, I’m familiar with relay problems (auto), but for some reason didn’t really consider that. I took the cover off and tapped on the retaining bar for the “lights” relay (4 across). There was definitely some noise (like a trigger short) that wasn’t...
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    Hayward spa light won’t turn off

    Hayward Prologic with Colorlogic lights (I think) To summarize, we had a power outage the other day, and my spa light won’t turn off. When I power cycle the lights (circuit breaker or service mode for 30 seconds) the pool lights (2) will come on as well as the system reboots/tests, the pool...
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    Switching from pucks to liquid, thoughts and insights?

    I try to keep it to around 50, and I run the mins on FC because I don't like high chlorine levels generally with the kids. Min for 50 according to TFP's CYA charts is 4. However, it's worth noting that even when I DO run it higher on pucks (I've kept and run it at 10 with a CYA of around...
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    Switching from pucks to liquid, thoughts and insights?

    Awesome, thanks for the insights! I've basically found the Hayward system (which seems to require the chemical control unit/component for the hayward panel which I think I'd need to add to my current Hayward set-up), the Pentair system (which seems to need control but which I'm kind of unclear...
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    Switching from pucks to liquid, thoughts and insights?

    Haha, no worries, I hear you. That may be true in terms of the default salt levels, but no one around here (pool installers) will install SWCG with the context I described. My neighbors across the street just put their pool in (motivated by our pool) and the installer refused to do SWCG due to...
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    Switching from pucks to liquid, thoughts and insights?

    Thanks for the responses. Responses below: I don't have a problem handling LC (large or small quantities), I just don't want to have to go out and do it daily or every other day or so to maintain a proper level. SWC is a non-starter for me for numerous reasons including 1) stone deck, 2)...
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    Switching from pucks to liquid, thoughts and insights?

    Not sure if Pumps, Filters... is the right channel for this, but didn't seem to be another clear fit. As the title summarizes, I've had an inline Pentair chlorinator since install (pucks) and I'm considering/looking at switching this over to a liquid set-up. Wanted to get advice/insight from...
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    Self-servicing Hayward heater... how?

    We're located in Austin, TX. Put the pool in about 4 years ago. Equipment includes an H400FDN Hayward heater, which we largely use to heat the spa year round (less heating in the summer, and pool rarely gets so cold you can't swim). I maintain the whole system largely myself with warranty and...
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    Slightly higher pressure on brand new filters... normal?

    Thanks for the reply. Default pressure with the OEM filters was always 20psi. Currently running around 22psi with the new Pleatco filters. This is off a Hayward 3400VSP running at 100%. It's not a huge difference, I just don't have any experience with brand new filters and/or a different...
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    Slightly higher pressure on brand new filters... normal?

    C-4030 Hayward Filter (I think... it's a 4 filter in ground system, but I often get the size wrong) Bit the bullet and replaced my old OEM Hayward filters with new Pleatco filters based on a bunch of research and $75 lower price. Haven't had them in long enough to review them, but running into...
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    Pleatco vs Unicel, any recent experience?

    After a little under 5 years of dutifully cleaning my four filters every spring and fall I'm looking to replace the OEM filters for my Hayward filter. I could probably keep going, but the last time I pulled them they were pretty dirty in the core, and I think 5 years is probably a good enough...
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    When do you Replace vs Clean pool filters?

    I've got a Hayward SwimClear pool filter, not sure which model but maybe C4030? It's got four filter cartiridges inside of it. I've had the pool in operation for about 4 years in Austin, TX, and I dutifully clean the filters about every 6-8 months. Basically I do it in the late spring and do...
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    Temperature sensor replacement... how to determine?

    For awhile now my temp sensor has been throwing weird results. The control board doesn't show any error, but whenever I turn on the spa (we only use it for the spa here in TX) it will often get WAY HOTTER than the 97f I have it set to (kids). I also find it tends to swing from time to time...
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    Super shocking for black algae, whats the final answer on swimming while you shock?

    Oh, clearly I'm following SLAM since, as I mentioned, I've been running my pool constantly at 30ppm Chlorine for multiple days now... :) Testing about 3-4 times a day with a full Taylor kit, so I'm pretty solid on the accuracy of my results. At this point I'm basically holding steady on the...
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    Super shocking for black algae, whats the final answer on swimming while you shock?

    Thanks for the replies guys. First, normal shocking as described by just about every pool resource I've read is running 10-15 PPM. Super shock is boosting to 30 ppm. Call it the difference between a regular preventative/cleaning shock and a "my $#%@ is $#&@ed up and I need to nuke it." I...
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    Super shocking for black algae, whats the final answer on swimming while you shock?

    I'm currently super shocking my pool, meaning I've been maintaining my FC around 30ppm for the last few days in an attempt to eradicate some annoying black algae that's been taking off in the horizontal grout under the waterline (I have glass tile on ledges and steps, and for some reason the...
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    Freeze protect keeps switching to spa mode?

    Ah, makes sense, I actually discovered the same information by... digging up and pouring through the manual, duh. :) To your point, it seems there's a "pool and spa" setting for freeze protect that toggles back and forth on 30 min cycles. I think I missed it because it's not visible with the...
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    Freeze protect keeps switching to spa mode?

    I have a Hayward variable with a Hayward controller, can't remember the numbers off the top of my head but recent (2-3 years old). Our pool has a pool and spa on a single heater/unified system, with the spa farthest from the pad and the pool kind of lengthwise in between it and the pad. My...
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    Limestone dust in pool... effects? Mitigation?

    Had our pool put in a couple of years ago, FINALLY got the pool builder to send the stone masons back out to fix some legacy problems from a worker who was too aggressive sanding/grinding the spillover stones (turned them into anything but squares). It occurred to me that the sanding and...
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    Putting in an overflow at the pad... how to?

    I haven't done it yet... this isn't a project I'm going to rush, I'll probably try first to coordinate it with any pool draining I may need to do in the future (there are some plaster issues the builder has to solve). If that doesn't happen I may end up doing it with the pool full, but I'd...
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    Putting in an overflow at the pad... how to?

    it's a good idea, but I'm looking to keep this as simple as possible (unpowered, pipe only, no fail). The goal here is just to make a really easy, no brainer, passive overflow system that'll will reduce by one the things I have to think about when it comes to my pool. One less thing to manage...
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    Putting in an overflow at the pad... how to?

    Sorry, I can't stop laughing at the whole Returns vs Suction thing... sorry if it was confusing, I tend to type quickly, and when my brain is thinking of "returning water to the pad" it ends up coming out in my reply. I hope we've all got a good idea that we're talking about the SUCTION side of...
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    Putting in an overflow at the pad... how to?

    Okay, I get you, since I don't have a back-end on the overflow there's no "level" to provide the counter pressure necessary to push back on the siphon and equalize the force. Makes sense. I still can't help thinking the siphon will "break" on it's own since the water in the overflow pipe will...
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    Putting in an overflow at the pad... how to?

    AWESOME post, thanks Steve! Funny, I'd never heard of a "weir" before... not that I know that much about spillways or flow mechanics, but I'd just never come across the term. Yes, that's definitely what I'm looking to create. So I don't know that much about Siphons (aside from the basics)...
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    Putting in an overflow at the pad... how to?

    Having all that gear sitting in my pool would entirely defeat the purpose, and would also look like garbage. rt
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    Putting in an overflow at the pad... how to?

    Sorry, just saw all these replies that didn't show up before... wierd. Drilling is a non-starter... I'm not looking to mess with the pool shell, and getting through my deck would involve too much horizontal drilling through concrete and/or destroying my lueder deck. If I'm going to get this to...
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    Putting in an overflow at the pad... how to?

    Great point about the pressure issues... I hadn't really thought about the suction component of the overflow. Yeah, I can probably solve that pretty easily with a one way valve. I've already got two on the pad based filler system I set-up... irrigation main is hooked into pad intake side, with...
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    Putting in an overflow at the pad... how to?

    So, when I put in my pool the PB never brought up the idea of an overflow system, and after some crazy rains here in Austin (and some overflow situations) I'm thinking of putting in an overflow valve. Looking to get some sage advice from folks on my plan. The plan is to put the overflow at the...