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    Electric heaters.

    I'm not at all familiar with how TX and the creative plans,but in Illinois, I'm on the hourly pricing plan. I pay whatever the spot price is plus delivery fee. Most of the time, delivery fee is ends up being more than half my bill. I have to be about -$0.03/kWhr to actually be free. Just keep an...
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    Jandy LRZ175EN parts offer

    Going to the curb Sunday night. Scrap truck will pick it up pretty quickly I'm guessing.
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    Jandy LRZ175EN parts offer

    I'm taking my Jandy Legacy 175,000 BTU heater to the curb next week. If anyone might want anything from it, let me know and I'll ship it to you for just the cost of shipping. You can read more about my heater (significant rust in burner) Heater Troubleshooting Help
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    Looking for Solar Cover recommendations

    @MarlboroMan, https://images.homedepot-static.com/catalog/pdfImages/af/affb05b3-5fa2-4927-9f3c-9c8df4224436.pdf documents several things I have read here through the years. Biggest benefit of cover is heat loss due to evaporation loss. Clear cover is best for heat transfer into the pool...
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    Looking for Solar Cover recommendations

    I'm more of a lurker than a contributor, so take that for what it's worth. I have gotten ~3 years out of my last 2 solar covers. I also typically leave them on throughout the season except when we're expecting to be in the pool. The one I bought at the start of this season was Thermo-Tex 24...
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    Advice needed: Purchasing new heater

    Thanks @ajw22. I think that's the 2nd time in a week that you've corrected something I've said. Maybe I should go back into lurking mode. @batesjer, I think it's fair to ask the sales rep to show you those terms in writing. If they exist, it should be an easy task. If they cannot, you may want...
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    Advice needed: Purchasing new heater

    Warranty Information | Flow Control doesn't state anything about online requirement or exclusion.
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    Check Valve

    Thank you both for your information (and pH correction). I may just remove the chlorinator since I also have a Zodiak Nature cartridge that I have inline that I've not used since finding TFP.
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    Check Valve

    I'm in the process of replacing my heater. My previous heater didn't have a check valve between the heater and in-line puck chlorinator. I only use the pucks when I'm away for a weekend or want to slowly increase CYA (and add chlorine). I always run my pump on a timer, so I understand that the...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    I talked to my "gas guy" (an acquaintance from church). It turns out he is a plumber who did my gas line. For a plain vanilla install, I'm sure not an issue. He said going to 2psi for the line is outside his wheelhouse. [On a side note, he is on year 15 on a comparable heater (Jandy 175k BTU) to...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    Thanks for saving me the trip. Can you tell based on your familiarity with the heaters, or did something in the pictures tip you off?
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    I'm still waiting to hear back from the gas guy (not derogatory) on running 2psi through the line to the heater. Also starting the process of changing the meter through Nicor (they don't allow 2nd meter at same address). I received additional pictures of the used heater. Any thoughts for $550...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    Gas installer said I have 1" line and I'm at the line's maximum btu. A pipe sizing chart I found said 1" 90' run is 133k btu if I'm reading it correctly. So what happens when a bigger heater (175k, 266k) cannot get the gas it's designed for?
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    Wow, am I getting schooled. I don't even know what I don't know! I just ran across a used Raypak P-R266A-MN-C (266k BTU, millivolt) heater for $550 (haven't tried negotiating price yet). It was in service 2-3 years and professionally maintained by father who was in pool business for career. I...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    Gotcha. How does time factor into the conversion between Ccf and BTU? I'm sure I have a high school math teacher that would be rolling his eyes at my lack of keeping track of my units. I'll check the other loads. Just gas stove and dryer (and unused furnace during this season).
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    So converting this to BTU, 100 Ccf of NG = 103.6k BTU (from What are Ccf, Mcf, Btu, and therms? How do I convert natural gas prices in dollars per Ccf or Mcf to dollars per Btu or therm? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)). So from the meter alone, I've been starving my 175k...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    Nicor has replied that my meter is the, "basic residential gas meter for a home and measures 100 cubic feet of gas." The meter says 175 C.F.H. @ 1/2" diff. M.A.O.P. 5 PSI. Does that answer your question?
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    Thank you all SO MUCH for your help. The gas line is a 80' run from the meter (+ however much it's buried; maybe 3' * 2). The pipe is flexible X-Riser Chichago Fittings with an outside circumference of 6", so outside diameter of 1.9". I haven't been able to find any tables or information that...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    Raypak 156a 150k BTU is 14% smaller than my current one. Raypak 206a and RP2100 200k BTU are 14% larger than my current one. Besides BTU differences, I don't see significant differences between all these. They all have extruded copper tubes, on-demand pilot, automatic bypass, self-adjusting...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    I doubt it's looking better, but I am learning something new. I have several pictures. I haven't cleaned anything up except to dump loose rust off from top of burner. One shows to the top of the firebox. Is that soot on 1/3 of the pipes of the heat exchanger? One shows thermistor and...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    I'll start trying to take the burner apart in the next few days to see what I can see. At this point, I don't have anything to lose since I am almost ready to throw in the towel on this heater. As another side note, operating the heater with water temperature < 70F is corrosive. This doesn't...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    MANY thanks @ajw22, @Pool Clown, @JamesW, and @swamprat69. Not necessarily what I wanted to hear, but I am listening. Had the $ conversation with wife earlier this morning. I'll be shopping for a new heater in the coming week so we can extend this season. To comments above about servicing, I...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    I found this troubleshooting guide from jandy. The layout of the LRZE board looks a lot like my LRZ. I think the flow chart will help me, and I'm probably at step 13 based on results. I'm planning on trying to get it back into working order for the remainder of this season, unless someone here...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    Going forward, any suggestions what I can do differently on my next heater? This is (was) my 1st heater. I pretty much just fired it up at the start of season, and drained it at the end of season. Anything I can try with this heater to complete this swim season (Midwest, so ~1 month) with it...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    I've had a Jandy Legacy LRZ175EN gas heater since ~ 2013. [If this is the expected life of this heater, stop reading and let me know.] Last night, it started throwing up "FAULT - CHECK IGN CONTROL" It usually does this at the start of the season when there may be air in the line (?), and I can...
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    2 year old Lochinvar heater: keep it or pitch it?

    I rarely use the inline puck chlorinator (usually liquid bleach). However, I don't have a check valve between it and the heater. The heater output is higher than the chlorinator - does chlorine concentration tend to settle like with liquid bleach?
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    Heater Selection Help

    I thought size was mainly driven by time to heat from cold. Following the math at http://poolheaterguide.com/what-size-he ... -you-need/, it looks like I would need 94kBTU to rise 20 degrees in 24 hours (R=12', D=4', A=7.5gal/ft^3, B=8.33lb/gal, ti=24hours, Te=20degrees >> R^2*PI*D*A*B/ti*Te)...
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    Heater Selection Help

    Looking to add a heater this year (2nd year of pool life). Planning on something around 150kBTU natural gas. To be honest, I am a bit overwhelmed by options and choices. I looked through information at http://poolheaterguide.com/gas-pool-heater-reviews/. What I don't fully understand (haven't...