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    Water Level for above ground pool when closing for winter

    I have always (7 years) drained my pool below the return and left all plumbing open. If I use an Aquadoor cover, that saves me the 4" or so of water to refill in the spring. Are there other advantages? Anything I need to watch out for? Also, It looks like the Aquadoor cover is 2 pieces. It...
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    Mesh or regular winter cover for Intex Ultra Frame?

    I have had a solid winter cover (Midwest Canvass) since getting my pool in 2012. I maybe should have retired it last year (lots of tiny pinprick holes), but I'm going to plan on using it this year as well. I remove plumbing to my skimmer and eyelet, and lower the water level to however low it...
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    Electric heaters.

    I'm not at all familiar with how TX and the creative plans,but in Illinois, I'm on the hourly pricing plan. I pay whatever the spot price is plus delivery fee. Most of the time, delivery fee is ends up being more than half my bill. I have to be about -$0.03/kWhr to actually be free. Just keep an...
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    Which chemicals do I need and best place to buy them?

    I buy my bleach for the season from Menards during their around Memorial Day sale (BOGO). It is label liquid shock and is 12.5% IIRC. I have also bought from a nearby pool store and is anywhere from 8-12%. In a bind I will also buy from Aldi or WalMart. The higher concentration stuff just makes...
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    Which chemicals do I need and best place to buy them?

    I'm more of a lurker here, but I do know what I use. If you are 24000 gallons, that's about double mine (13500). I typically use 4 cups of 12% bleach a day during the heat of summer. If you have a test kit, I would suggest you buy at least a case of 12% bleach (double if 6%) for now and see...
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    Jandy LRZ175EN parts offer

    Going to the curb Sunday night. Scrap truck will pick it up pretty quickly I'm guessing.
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    Jandy LRZ175EN parts offer

    I'm taking my Jandy Legacy 175,000 BTU heater to the curb next week. If anyone might want anything from it, let me know and I'll ship it to you for just the cost of shipping. You can read more about my heater (significant rust in burner) Heater Troubleshooting Help
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    Outside of ABG Pool...what did you put down around it?

    I'm jumping into this thread late, but I have river rock around the perimeter of my pool about 18-24" wide. I didn't want grass anywhere near it and be nicking up the paint finish of the sidewalls with the weed eater. @Rose38478, seeing your recent pictures concerns me based on my recent...
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    Looking for Solar Cover recommendations

    @MarlboroMan, https://images.homedepot-static.com/catalog/pdfImages/af/affb05b3-5fa2-4927-9f3c-9c8df4224436.pdf documents several things I have read here through the years. Biggest benefit of cover is heat loss due to evaporation loss. Clear cover is best for heat transfer into the pool...
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    Looking for Solar Cover recommendations

    I'm more of a lurker than a contributor, so take that for what it's worth. I have gotten ~3 years out of my last 2 solar covers. I also typically leave them on throughout the season except when we're expecting to be in the pool. The one I bought at the start of this season was Thermo-Tex 24...
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    which pump and how much run time

    Let me start by saying that I'm mostly a lurker and by no means an expert. For run time, check out Determine Pump Run Time - Trouble Free Pool. A few years ago, I switched from a single-speed 1HP to a 2-speed 1HP max. I run on low speed most of the time (except for manual vacuuming), and have...
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    Advice needed: Purchasing new heater

    Thanks @ajw22. I think that's the 2nd time in a week that you've corrected something I've said. Maybe I should go back into lurking mode. @batesjer, I think it's fair to ask the sales rep to show you those terms in writing. If they exist, it should be an easy task. If they cannot, you may want...
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    Advice needed: Purchasing new heater

    Warranty Information | Flow Control doesn't state anything about online requirement or exclusion.
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    Check Valve

    Thank you both for your information (and pH correction). I may just remove the chlorinator since I also have a Zodiak Nature cartridge that I have inline that I've not used since finding TFP.
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    Check Valve

    I'm in the process of replacing my heater. My previous heater didn't have a check valve between the heater and in-line puck chlorinator. I only use the pucks when I'm away for a weekend or want to slowly increase CYA (and add chlorine). I always run my pump on a timer, so I understand that the...
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    Rust

    I finally got back to this project. I treated it as no rush since it wasn't growing through the swim season. I went the entire way around the pool and pulled the landscaping rock back to expose the bottom track. The rust was present in all places (except stainless panel) where installer or I had...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    I talked to my "gas guy" (an acquaintance from church). It turns out he is a plumber who did my gas line. For a plain vanilla install, I'm sure not an issue. He said going to 2psi for the line is outside his wheelhouse. [On a side note, he is on year 15 on a comparable heater (Jandy 175k BTU) to...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    Thanks for saving me the trip. Can you tell based on your familiarity with the heaters, or did something in the pictures tip you off?
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    I'm still waiting to hear back from the gas guy (not derogatory) on running 2psi through the line to the heater. Also starting the process of changing the meter through Nicor (they don't allow 2nd meter at same address). I received additional pictures of the used heater. Any thoughts for $550...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    Gas installer said I have 1" line and I'm at the line's maximum btu. A pipe sizing chart I found said 1" 90' run is 133k btu if I'm reading it correctly. So what happens when a bigger heater (175k, 266k) cannot get the gas it's designed for?
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    Wow, am I getting schooled. I don't even know what I don't know! I just ran across a used Raypak P-R266A-MN-C (266k BTU, millivolt) heater for $550 (haven't tried negotiating price yet). It was in service 2-3 years and professionally maintained by father who was in pool business for career. I...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    Gotcha. How does time factor into the conversion between Ccf and BTU? I'm sure I have a high school math teacher that would be rolling his eyes at my lack of keeping track of my units. I'll check the other loads. Just gas stove and dryer (and unused furnace during this season).
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    So converting this to BTU, 100 Ccf of NG = 103.6k BTU (from What are Ccf, Mcf, Btu, and therms? How do I convert natural gas prices in dollars per Ccf or Mcf to dollars per Btu or therm? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)). So from the meter alone, I've been starving my 175k...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    Nicor has replied that my meter is the, "basic residential gas meter for a home and measures 100 cubic feet of gas." The meter says 175 C.F.H. @ 1/2" diff. M.A.O.P. 5 PSI. Does that answer your question?
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    Thank you all SO MUCH for your help. The gas line is a 80' run from the meter (+ however much it's buried; maybe 3' * 2). The pipe is flexible X-Riser Chichago Fittings with an outside circumference of 6", so outside diameter of 1.9". I haven't been able to find any tables or information that...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    Raypak 156a 150k BTU is 14% smaller than my current one. Raypak 206a and RP2100 200k BTU are 14% larger than my current one. Besides BTU differences, I don't see significant differences between all these. They all have extruded copper tubes, on-demand pilot, automatic bypass, self-adjusting...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    I doubt it's looking better, but I am learning something new. I have several pictures. I haven't cleaned anything up except to dump loose rust off from top of burner. One shows to the top of the firebox. Is that soot on 1/3 of the pipes of the heat exchanger? One shows thermistor and...
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    Heater Troubleshooting Help

    I'll start trying to take the burner apart in the next few days to see what I can see. At this point, I don't have anything to lose since I am almost ready to throw in the towel on this heater. As another side note, operating the heater with water temperature < 70F is corrosive. This doesn't...
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    Center Drain Valve - Hose Hook-Up?!

    Apparently some above ground pools in freezing climates have floor drains? For some reason I thought that wound't work well. How do you purge it from freezing in winter? I would have liked a floor drain, but didn't know to investigate one when my pool was being installed. This is my 1st pool...