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    Help Choosing VS Pump to Replace 1.5 HP Single Speed

    That's why I've been leaning toward Pentair and Hayward, but if someone has experience with something else I might as well find out.
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    Help Choosing VS Pump to Replace 1.5 HP Single Speed

    Most of my research was previously on VS pumps so I'm trying to research the 2 speeds now / look up some options and costs.
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    Help Choosing VS Pump to Replace 1.5 HP Single Speed

    How do you like your Pureline? I was sticking mainly to brands like Hayward and Pentair because I know they're high quality. The Purelines are a lot cheaper though which makes them an interesting value proposition if they have longevity.
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    Help Choosing VS Pump to Replace 1.5 HP Single Speed

    Thanks. I had read in multiple sites that reviewed VS pumps that the big ones could get starved with 1.5" piping so I was obviously a bit concerned about that. I'll look into the 2-speed motors. My first impression was that they might not last as long or be as efficient while running at the...
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    Help Choosing VS Pump to Replace 1.5 HP Single Speed

    I was more concerned about starving the pump. I also don't necessarily trust everyone, such as visitors, to not try and jack it up to full speed when using the spa. If doing that for like 6 hours won't damage the pump or other equipment then it's definitely a more realistic possibility. Other...
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    Help Choosing VS Pump to Replace 1.5 HP Single Speed

    with 1.5" plumbing isn't that extremely overpowered? I've read I could starve the pump or potentially even break the plumbing running it at anywhere near full speed.
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    Help Choosing VS Pump to Replace 1.5 HP Single Speed

    So I'm finally getting back to buying a VS pump and I'm wondering about what you guys think I should get for my system. My pool is about 17k gallons which includes a small shared spa (hard to tell - kidney shaped with a deep end around 8 ft and shallow around 3). I have 1 skimmer and a...
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    Yet Another Pump Replacement Help Thread

    We're currently sanitizing with a combination of liquid chlorine and pucks. Yes, I'm thinking of automation and maybe SWG in the future, but that's probably a couple years down the road.
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    Yet Another Pump Replacement Help Thread

    Unfortunately, there's no utility rebates. We'll probably install the pump ourselves. I know I won't get the full coverage but that doesn't seem worth paying both high markup plus labor costs. My concern with oversizing the pump isn't strictly the oversizing since I can obviously dial it...
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    Yet Another Pump Replacement Help Thread

    So I'm looking to upgrade from an old 1 hp single-speed Sta-Rite to a VSP and would like some help on sizing / the model to buy. Some hopefully useful background: Pool Size: about 16k gallons? It's hard to calculate because it's a kidney shaped pool that gradually goes from about 3 feet to 9...
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    Heat Pump Replacement Installation - Question About Base

    Thank you. I have a friend of a friend that does electric work for a pretty good rate so I'll probably leave most of that to him. Though honestly it looks pretty easy to me.
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    Heat Pump Replacement Installation - Question About Base

    cool. thanks for the info! I've got a few of those screws laying around. We have a concrete block house, so anytime we want to attach something to an outside wall we use those. Is 1/4" x 1-3/4" really big enough to screw this thing down? How difficult was the installation overall? Not just the...
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    Heat Pump Replacement Installation - Question About Base

    cool thanks. I couldn't quite tell from the picks, did you mortar those blocks together or just leave them loose and piled up? Also, is the heater bolted in in any way or does it just sit on top? I'm actually thinking buying the hurricane pad may be the way to go seeing as we get hit by...
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    Heat Pump Replacement Installation - Question About Base

    It looks like I'm going to buy a Hayward 21404t Heat Pump to replace my broken propane heater. Thankfully, Hayward doesn't require approved / licensed installation for their warranty, so I'd like to do some of it myself. My father in law is pretty handy, he used to design and build houses in the...
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    Heat Pump Recommendations - Hayward 21404t vs Raypak 8350TI-E

    I was thinking more like one of those 3' white picket garden fences with some plants around the heater and pump area. It shouldn't obstruct air flow much and while the heater would still be visible, it would be notably less so. The Hayward unit needs 2' of clearance on each side and 6 ft...
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    Heat Pump Recommendations - Hayward 21404t vs Raypak 8350TI-E

    LOL :p True, but it can also fade, warp, and crack after years of exposure to the heat and sun. hmm I should have run the calculation. That's definitely a little disappointing. Still, I don't know if propane is a realistic answer for us due to the high costs. Are you sure you did your math...
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    Heat Pump Recommendations - Hayward 21404t vs Raypak 8350TI-E

    I want to buy a heat pump to maintain temperature on our 15k gallon pool and heat our 200 gallon spa to ~100f. Since I'm looking to heat the spa somewhat quickly (30-45 min hopefully), I want as many BTUs as I can reasonably get for a decent price. Without getting into the gas vs electric debate...
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    1 Spa Jet Not Working

    I've removed what I think you're calling the exterior fitting and put it back on before. I don't believe I have spa jet nozzles. I just have spa returns that are very similar to pool returns, like this one. As dumb as this sounds, how do I flush the line? (obviously, I've never done that before)
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    1 Spa Jet Not Working

    I have 4 return jets in my built-in spa. When I set the return to spa-only mode, 3 of the jets shoot water really hard and aerate properly. The 4th jet just barely has a small trickle of water drip out of it. As far as I can tell, there is no noticeable water loss, so I doubt it's a leak...
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    3 Way Valve Without Movement Restrictions?

    I understand that it's potentially dangerous since I could conceivably block every port leading to the inlet. However, I could in theory do that now, it just requires the annoyance of disconnecting my cleaner and attaching the plug at the opening in the pool. If I trust myself to not be an idiot...
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    Electric Spa Heater for Spillover Spa?

    true true. Tape measures are metal and yardsticks are wood. Everyone knows that when inches were defined they weren't using metal to take measurements yet so they're only calibrated for wood and you need to adjust for the difference in materials when measuring items longer than a foot or so...
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    Electric Spa Heater for Spillover Spa?

    lol I know I sounded like an idiot with that question. I didn't literally mean "are BTUs different depending on the device". That'd be like asking "are inches different when measuring a floor vs a table?" lol. I meant are there other factors to consider that are inherent in the technology that...
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    Electric Spa Heater for Spillover Spa?

    So no significant ramp up time to get the heat pump "up to speed." That's what I figured but wanted confirmed since most people claim that the propane heats quicker, pretty much unconditionally. But you can actually buy a heat pump that produces more BTUs than some propane heaters (140k BTU heat...
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    Electric Spa Heater for Spillover Spa?

    One last question: In the example of heating a pool / spa, are BTUs BTUs no matter how you get them, or are there further differences between heat pumps and propane in this regard? (not counting the drop in BTUs for heat pumps due to ambient temperature / humidity). If I had a 140k BTU heat...
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    Electric Spa Heater for Spillover Spa?

    I know, and I appreciate all the information everyone's provided. I don't want to be wasting your guys time either by begging for more information or trying to get you to make a decision for me, but it seems like people keep adding something that seems somewhat different / contradictory to what...
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    Electric Spa Heater for Spillover Spa?

    I do not have a separate pump for the spa. However, I often maintain it below spillover levels and have had no more difficulty with the filtration or chemical balance than with my normal pool. I do make sure to run the pool in spa only mode (or sometimes spillover mode) frequently enough that it...
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    Electric Spa Heater for Spillover Spa?

    That's definitely worth considering. I'll have to run the numbers, but it seems much more expensive up front, and how quickly will it get the spa temperature up to 100? Also, I don't think it'll take 20 gallons from what I've seen. It looks like it should take about 1/2 gallon to raise the 200...
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    Electric Spa Heater for Spillover Spa?

    I don't think we're going to keep it heated 24/7, at least not with propane. That doesn't sound reasonable for us budget wise. I'm more interested in what it takes to keep it at the 100 deg temperature for an hour or two with a couple people in the spa and obviously no cover. That will allow me...
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    Electric Spa Heater for Spillover Spa?

    I totally missed when you posted this. I'm not sure what you're asking with how much of my shell is above grade. If you mean above ground, none of it is. I didn't exactly drain the water out of the spa into measuring buckets or anything but I took dimensional measurements using a tape measure...
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    Electric Spa Heater for Spillover Spa?

    This is what I'm trying to figure out. I can use the various calculators and throw in some inefficiency fudge factor for figuring out how much will burn to get from temp x to temp y, but what about keeping it at temp y for an hour? That's the part I'm really unsure about and it plays a big role...