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  1. Websherpa

    Canadian Winter, Vinyl Inground, Ice and high Water Level ... problem?

    During the summer (we open in early May) I am always draining the pool manually after a heavy rain (or during the storm). In the Spring and Fall (not open) I have pumped out the pool as a precaution (no ice) if necessary. I "think" but don't exactly recall, that in a heavy, heavy rainstorm...
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    Canadian Winter, Vinyl Inground, Ice and high Water Level ... problem?

    Thank you Newdude, It’s not that obvious unfortunately, there isn’t any additional return (except for filler, and that’s higher than the water level), and nothing obvious plumbed into the skimmer that I have ever been able to detect. I was left wondering whether there was a subtle built-in...
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    Canadian Winter, Vinyl Inground, Ice and high Water Level ... problem?

    We live near Toronto, Ontario so the winters are mild by Canadian standards, but still a deep freeze and lots of precipitation (mix of rain and snow). Every year when closing I lower the water level below the returns, and we have a safety mesh cover. The few years we’ve been getting more...
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    Ideas to remove a stuck CMP Spa Master Top Draw Air Control?

    Yes, sorry, forgot to mention that trick as well. It's still stuck. I am hoping to receive replacement parts from the US today and THEN I take the blow torch or dremel to it this weekend I guess. ;-)
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    Pump Noise

    I am no expert, mine is strictly a personal opinion. Bearings can sound smoother at higher speeds because the frequency of the pitch (and general motor noise) is also raised. Around here at least, we have reliable motor repair places that will diagnose pool pumps in a day or two for CDN$35. I...
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    Ideas to remove a stuck CMP Spa Master Top Draw Air Control?

    I've had an issue with sticky CMP (Custom Colded Products) Spa Master Top Draw Air Controls (Gray 1") before, but now one is so stuck that trying to loosen it is also loosening the locking nut behind the fibreglass stairs it's attached to. So I am lookng for possible ideas for removing this Air...
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    What is purpose of “24 Hour SWG Chlorine Output” in Pool Math App?

    FANTASTIC, OK! Right in front of me but not something I would normally see/use. And it didn’t occur to me that there was a SWG selection in the Overview (as I add liquid chlorine in the beginning of season or if I ever need (if ever) shock or SLAM. Must be a new addition to the app. Is...
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    What is purpose of “24 Hour SWG Chlorine Output” in Pool Math App?

    Thank you, that makes logical sense, (It shows my IC-20 produces .7 lbs), but I am failing to see where that’s used or indicated in the logs or reports. Maybe it’s right in front of me and I am missing it? How do I (or the App) use that number? I am assuming that in a perfect world it would be...
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    What is purpose of “24 Hour SWG Chlorine Output” in Pool Math App?

    Title says it all. I am curious to know what the purpose of the 24 Hour SWG Chlorine Output setting in the Pool Math App does?
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    Getting started in Automation on a Budget - Pentair 523317 Intelliconnect WiFi ?

    Taking this a bit further, I am a little confused, but I do think that if you use the Intelliconnect with an Intellichlor then you may lose one of the relays... but if you don't, and the software has "some" flexibility AND pool valve actuators have limit switches, then I could see perhaps one...
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    Getting started in Automation on a Budget - Pentair 523317 Intelliconnect WiFi ?

    Who knows why they have a 433Mhz remote thrown in, but it doesn't change the price without it I think (cheap Chinese....cr@p... wait..EVERYTHING is manufactured on contract in China...). I would imagine there is some magic there related to garage door openers.
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    Getting started in Automation on a Budget - Pentair 523317 Intelliconnect WiFi ?

    If Valve Actuator Motors have limit switches, then I am thinking this for simple control possibly: WiFi Momentary Relay Delay DC 7-32V 2 Channel Jog Inching Self-Locking WiFi Wireless Smart Home Switch APP Remote Control Module for iOS/Android,Compatible with Alexa(433Mhz Remote Included)...
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    Getting started in Automation on a Budget - Pentair 523317 Intelliconnect WiFi ?

    I guess this: Intermatic Valve Actuator Controller PE140, either with a separate Z-Wave clock timer or PE653RC | MultiWave® Basic Control System or the Intelliconnect (but then we would be closer to an all in one system with the last two).
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    Getting started in Automation on a Budget - Pentair 523317 Intelliconnect WiFi ?

    OK, now I get it, I was thinking that a valve actuator could be flipped in direction by being turned on and off sequentially (this is the heavy learning phase of my planned expedition). So now I am wondering if there are any relatively inexpensive Intermatic Valve Actuator controllers that...
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    Getting started in Automation on a Budget - Pentair 523317 Intelliconnect WiFi ?

    Yes, sorry RS-485 (I was going by memory). I assumed the Relay specs just outline the max voltage that the internal relays can handle, and thus 24volts would be switched regardless (but that goes to show you what I know). "McGuyver" is my middle name. I will give Pentair or a local...
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    Getting started in Automation on a Budget - Pentair 523317 Intelliconnect WiFi ?

    In fact I have read the installation manual for the Intelliconnect and it seems straightforward, I do need to replace RS-232 connect cables for the pump and heater that my original installer took with him before he went missing, and install a temperature sensor, plus the one valve and Actuator...
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    Getting started in Automation on a Budget - Pentair 523317 Intelliconnect WiFi ?

    Really constrained, but it is possible for me to get away with adding one valve and actuator at first, only for the Waterfall, and then program it to only come on when the Pool Pump is set to high flow. That would take care of what is the main automation purpose in this. (Or I could walk over...
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    Getting started in Automation on a Budget - Pentair 523317 Intelliconnect WiFi ?

    Thank you for answering my thread! The 3 valves are garden variety, but I can easily change them out and planned to. I've just read the odd thread here and there on the forum poo pooing the Intelliconnect and wondering if it may be the lo cost simple solution I am looking for?
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    Getting started in Automation on a Budget - Pentair 523317 Intelliconnect WiFi ?

    Perhaps this is a "talk me out of it" but I have a simple Pentair pool system with one skimmer, one waterfall, one gas heater, Quad-DE100 (means I only have to backwash or clean it when closing each year), Intelliclor-20, Aqualamp Rainbow Rays LED Pool Lights (x2 on same circuit) and two stair...
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    Borate Testing & Dissipation Question

    Quick update if anyone is listening. I tested my Hach AquaChek Borate Strips in Reverse Osmosis water and it DID indicate a 15ppm level (which seems high perhaps)... BUT just realized that what I was taking as 0ppm Borates was not (since pad isn't changing colour in pool water test), it is...
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    Borate Testing & Dissipation Question

    For the previous two years I used Borax and Muriatic Acid with what seemed like relatively accurate LaMotte Borate Test strips. Water sparkled and softer, pH more stable, level around 50ppm to start - definitely pleased. Second spring the level was down to around 30ppm (and I brought it up...
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    Pentair quad de 60 pressure rises within an hour of cleaning

    I’m wondering how this worked out. It seemed to me like you could run the Quad DE without adding DE (or after backwashing it significantly) but with the cartridges in and then after the algae is SLAM dead, clean the filters by hand, re-charge say half DE to start filtering dead algae, backwash...
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    Pool Math........The App

    I used the app last season and registered a subscription. I like the app, but I too am finding it troubling that I can’t refine the targets. I end up having to adjust them every time I use the app. I think the logic that amateurs would change the targets arbitrarily is counter-intuitive as...