Standard thickness to the rebar is typically 3” of coverage. These standards are made by engineers for specific reasons and are requirements, at times cities will require a Shotcrete inspector who will submit a statement indicating compliance with the plans and specifications.
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Yes, if I'm following you correctly, the rebar was set out about 3" from the forms and that inspection passed before gunite. But with the one wall being only 5.5" thick at the top, my assumption is that some of that rebar doesn't have nearly as much coverage as the 8" or 11" thick sides.
I'm not sure there's anything they could do about it now but it just caught my eye that the one wall was noticeably thinner than the rest. Any structural concerns or is it likely not a big deal since there's much less water in the sun shelf than the main pool body?
I plan to call the project manager tomorrow to discuss but dont want to come off accusatory. I'm just curious and this process fascinates me.
Yes, what’s done is done. I would ask the project manager if the wall at 5.5” is what the plans call for and meet the requirements.
Only a structural engineer can give you a professional answer regarding your concerns not the project manager.
I hope this helps you with your meeting tomorrow.
Only a structural engineer can give you a professional answer regarding your concerns not the project manager.
I hope this helps you with your meeting tomorrow.
Here's where we're at. The main stairs from the sunshelf look really narrow but in person they're not too bad. Really liking how this design fits in with our backyard.
Thanksgiving Eve update:
There's been some progress the last couple weeks! Forms were pulled last week and we finally got to see an unobstructed view of the shape.
This week they backfilled, trenched for plumbing and electrical, and got all the plumbing roughed in and ready for inspection.
Inspection is scheduled for next Monday, then waterline tile and hopefully we can coordinate the rough plumbing of the natural gas line going to the firepit. Not sure if they'll be able to use the same trench as the pool plumbing but it will be left open for the gas guys to see, in any case.
I'm trying to learn as much as I can about robotic cleaners so I can choose one and get it ordered to have in time. Anyone have recommendations for our small pool with 9 inch sunshelf depth?
There's been some progress the last couple weeks! Forms were pulled last week and we finally got to see an unobstructed view of the shape.
This week they backfilled, trenched for plumbing and electrical, and got all the plumbing roughed in and ready for inspection.
Inspection is scheduled for next Monday, then waterline tile and hopefully we can coordinate the rough plumbing of the natural gas line going to the firepit. Not sure if they'll be able to use the same trench as the pool plumbing but it will be left open for the gas guys to see, in any case.
I'm trying to learn as much as I can about robotic cleaners so I can choose one and get it ordered to have in time. Anyone have recommendations for our small pool with 9 inch sunshelf depth?
That is good progress! Looking great! For the robot here is our go to person. If you order it over the phone you get the full warranty! Home - Marina Pool Spa & Patio For the shelf you may have to brush it if the return up there is not set up to push anything off and into the pool.
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You'll have to brush the sunshelf. Mine is also 9" and that is just too shallow for a robotic cleaner. To be honest I think I brush mine like twice a season. So it doesn't need a lot as long as your water chemistry is kept in check.
As Kim suggested, call Margaret or Seth at Marina Pool and Spa and talk to them about your pool and your wants/needs in a pool cleaner. They will get you set up.
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Plumbing inspection passed. Waterline tile installed and grouted. Gas line to fire pit roughed in. Most of the backfilling is done except by the equipment pad. Currently inquiring about sliding the equipment location down a few feet to get out of view from the living room window.
Anyone have recommendations for landscape/hush house surrounding the equipment?
I'm liking the tile so far. It looked really gray and light in the boxes but appears much more blue installed and in the sun. I was almost in trouble with the boss as this was the first time she'd seen the tile
Looking forward to coping next!
Anyone have recommendations for landscape/hush house surrounding the equipment?
I'm liking the tile so far. It looked really gray and light in the boxes but appears much more blue installed and in the sun. I was almost in trouble with the boss as this was the first time she'd seen the tile
Looking forward to coping next!
Yeah you have to look at the pool stuff BY the pool to make sure you like how it looks. As you are seeing everything looks a bit different depending on the surroundings and lighting!
After a huge holiday hiatus, the crew showed up last week to start the coping. They've been slowwwwly plugging away for the past two weeks (two weeks!) and finally got it all down today. A few more corners and finishing the grout to go. It looks great and we're happy to see progress so i havent conplained about the pace...yet.
The equipment pad will be moved down another 10 feet or so away from the pool and out of any window sight lines. That plumbing will get corrected, deck jets installed and hopefully the paver base put down. Crossing our fingers for continued progress, preferably accelerated.
The equipment pad will be moved down another 10 feet or so away from the pool and out of any window sight lines. That plumbing will get corrected, deck jets installed and hopefully the paver base put down. Crossing our fingers for continued progress, preferably accelerated.
What’s going to be installed on top of this lip of the BB?
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Yeah, they look pretty good. Lines are straight, miters look good.
I'm assuming the pavers will butt up to those. Concrete aggregate base to bring up to that level. I hadn't thought much about the mortar clean up that would be needed to get that lip level and flat. Aside from scraping that off, any other concerns with the lip?
Not that it’s out of level as much as what ever type of decking is installed should not come in direct contact with the BB.
Hmm, ok. So how's this normally handled with wider BB? They just use wider coping to hang over the back side also or does the concern have more to do with ensuring there's an expansion gap?
The waterline tile was set above the BB edge about half an inch. Coping guys leveled the top with mortar. Is this considered the same as direct contact? I'm assuming so since its right on top. There's only one side of the sunshelf where the coping is flush with the BB, all other sides of pool and sunshelf have a lip of 1" or greater.
Concern for me would be more of making sure that no concrete comes in direct contact with the BB.
A sand base for pavers will allow more movement than a concrete base.
In my area most common coping is poured in place and formed to fit the BB.
At time of pool layout for excavation and Shotcrete a discussion of type/size of coping takes place to help plan for a straight back side of the BB.
A sand base for pavers will allow more movement than a concrete base.
In my area most common coping is poured in place and formed to fit the BB.
At time of pool layout for excavation and Shotcrete a discussion of type/size of coping takes place to help plan for a straight back side of the BB.
Ok, so sounds like an expansion/isolation joint concern to make sure the deck isnt putting pressure on the BB. Am I correct in thinking the aggregate base over sand for the paver deck is less of an expansion concern than poured concrete? I'll ask the PB about what they do for expansion joint and if they apply it where the aggregate meets the BB or just between pavers and coping.
We have a deck! We're loving the look so far. I was getting worried that the pavers might clash with the stacked stone more than it does but I think it works so far. Next question I have, to seal or not to seal?
Plumbing/equipment pad is up next, hopefully within the next couple weeks. The end is in sight (and so is the warm weather)!
I'm in the process of getting landscape/irrigation/sod quotes now. Also started looking into furniture and umbrellas. The prices are a little demoralizing for higher quality stuff with decent warranties.
More to come...
Plumbing/equipment pad is up next, hopefully within the next couple weeks. The end is in sight (and so is the warm weather)!
I'm in the process of getting landscape/irrigation/sod quotes now. Also started looking into furniture and umbrellas. The prices are a little demoralizing for higher quality stuff with decent warranties.
More to come...