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naperthrill

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When designing a pool, any recommendations from the get go in regards to umbrella sleeves, built in tables, corner benches etc. Do these tend not to be that great in the long run as they impede the ability to actually use the pool? I have twin 4.5 year old, 8 year old, and then my wife and I who enjoy relaxing, drinking. As far as my wife and I we aren't swimmers, so were likely only going to do 3 feet 6 to 5 feet 6 to 3 feet 6. Just interested if there are some additional design elements we should be thinking about if we enjoy entertaining (whether its just entertaining ourselves, or with friends).

Thanks!
 
When designing a pool, any recommendations from the get go in regards to umbrella sleeves, built in tables, corner benches etc. Do these tend not to be that great in the long run as they impede the ability to actually use the pool? I have twin 4.5 year old, 8 year old, and then my wife and I who enjoy relaxing, drinking. As far as my wife and I we aren't swimmers, so were likely only going to do 3 feet 6 to 5 feet 6 to 3 feet 6. Just interested if there are some additional design elements we should be thinking about if we enjoy entertaining (whether its just entertaining ourselves, or with friends).

Thanks!
This may not be a "popular" opinion, but I believe when designing a pool when you have young toddlers in the house, don't do designs based on their needs. Monitor their safety obviously, but they will grow up FAST, learn how to swim FAST (when it comes to deciding pool depth). Plan tables/benches according to the amount of entertaining you will do now and in the near future. Remember a robot cleaner may not be able to navigate around tables/benches so that means more sweeping and cleaning you will have to do manually.
 
If you're going to have a tanning bench area (that very shallow area folks often put chairs on to sit in the water) I'd suggest making the pool 4'-6'-3.5' or 4' water depth. It allows for more actual swimming when the kids start having races. Kids learn to swim fast, and they float on noodles and floatation mats just fine in deeper water.

My two cents-

Maddie :flower:
 
If you're going to have a tanning bench area (that very shallow area folks often put chairs on to sit in the water) I'd suggest making the pool 4'-6'-3.5' or 4' water depth. It allows for more actual swimming when the kids start having races. Kids learn to swim fast, and they float on noodles and floatation mats just fine in deeper water.

My two cents-

Maddie :flower:
got it, yes we are planning to incorporate a tanning bench area to have a shallow area toddlers could stand on etc, so may be worth going 4'-6'-4'. Issue though is anything above 5' requires a bench along the side of pool per city code, so I think we were trying to keep to 5' depth to avoid this. perhaps 4'-5'-4' or 4'-5' may may more sense?
 
This may not be a "popular" opinion, but I believe when designing a pool when you have young toddlers in the house, don't do designs based on their needs. Monitor their safety obviously, but they will grow up FAST, learn how to swim FAST (when it comes to deciding pool depth). Plan tables/benches according to the amount of entertaining you will do now and in the near future. Remember a robot cleaner may not be able to navigate around tables/benches so that means more sweeping and cleaning you will have to do manually.
good point. I think the idea is we don't particular enjoy standing in pools that are 6' deep and my wife and I don't particularly "swim", we have always hung out in pools, have drinks. I don't know if 5' serves the purpose to have a nice party pool/sport pool and still is functional for the kids as they get older.
 
The more 'stuff' you build in, the harder it will be to brush and the more places algae will have to hide. If you know someone with a pool with benches, seats, shelves, umbrella stands, etc, ask if you can brush it for them, see how much fun that is.
 
good point. I think the idea is we don't particular enjoy standing in pools that are 6' deep and my wife and I don't particularly "swim", we have always hung out in pools, have drinks. I don't know if 5' serves the purpose to have a nice party pool/sport pool and still is functional for the kids as they get older.
I think 5' would be the "minimum" for non-swimmers and entertaining (standing with drink in hand). It should be ok for the occasional cannonball, but definitely no diving.
 
The more 'stuff' you build in, the harder it will be to brush and the more places algae will have to hide. If you know someone with a pool with benches, seats, shelves, umbrella stands, etc, ask if you can brush it for them, see how much fun that is.
thats enough to convince me not to add the "extras". Interested to hear about what would be a recommended pool depth
 
Issue though is anything above 5' requires a bench along the side of pool per city code, so I think we were trying to keep to 5' depth to avoid this. perhaps 4'-5'-4' or 4'-5' may may more sense?
Are you sure about this? We lived in Frisco for years and don't recall all deep ends having benches, nor do I see it on the the website:
 

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Issue though is anything above 5' requires a bench along the side of pool
I kinda like having benches in the pool. They provide adults a spot to sit, drink, and talk and give toddlers and younger kids a place to rest when learning how to swim. They also add another means of ingress and egress out of the pool. We have three benches in the pool; one 11 feet in length and two 7 feet in length.
 
Are you sure about this? We lived in Frisco for years and don't recall all deep ends having benches, nor do I see it on the the website:
all the PB that came out and gave me a bid kept saying that if I go higher than 5', there has to be an "escape" step/bench in that depth so it made the design a bit weird but perhaps steps or something satisfies the requirement. Let me see if i can find anything in the Frisco site
 
Are you sure about this? We lived in Frisco for years and don't recall all deep ends having benches, nor do I see it on the the website:
here what it says for residential requirements:

"Any pool greater than 5’0’’ depth must have a means of exit out of the deep end. " so I don't know if it was 6' in the middle, if there has to be some sort of exit available in the middle of the pool
 
I think 3'6" to 5'6" is a good plan. Not so sure I like the shallow-to deep-to shallow design though. The young kids are going to want to use both shallow ends making them traverse a deep section to get across. I don't see the point of that. I'd go with a design with fairly extensive shallow end transitioning into a deep end.
 
Interesting. The one I'm thinking of was a sport type pool and I remember playing volleyball in it and there were no steps/benches in the middle of the pool, only on each of the shallow ends.
 
I don't recall if you said what type of pool you're considering but it seems all the FG pool designs we looked at incorporated a built in 'walking ledge' or 'safety ledge' all around. That may be the feature which satisfies the egress requirement.
 
I don't recall if you said what type of pool you're considering but it seems all the FG pool designs we looked at incorporated a built in 'walking ledge' or 'safety ledge' all around. That may be the feature which satisfies the egress requirement.
yeah I think that would probably satisfy the requirement if we did that all the way around, but I didn't want to take away from the "usable" pool space. Plus if wife doesn't want to go deeper than 5' then seemed pointless to waste space on a walking ledge all the way around, but maybe there are some advantages to such a design.
 
This is a pretty good, very recent, write-up...

 
Regarding benches, I love our deep end bench. It's 10' long with a step on each side. The vision in my head when building it was my teenage son and his friends doing stupid showoff teenage boy things while the girls could sit on the bench and laugh at them, which is pretty much how I see that playing out. We've used it as an adult hang out spot when kids are busy splashing on the ledge. It's also closer to the spa and gets used a lot to enter and leave the pool. Unexpected benefit is that since our bench bumps out it's an easy place to add chemicals and grab water samples without having to lift or take off the cover since we never "close" the pool and the cover only spans the main rectangle.

Regarding depth, I considered the same sort of sports layout, once we decided on a slide (which I highly recommend!) we had to have a deep end. Your kids are little now, but they grow fast. Think long term goals for this. Our driving goal was to continue to be The House our son and his friends wanted to be at so we could get to know them and their families a little better. Kids like to jump in and do cannonballs, they love trying to dive down to the bottom to touch our little starfish tile, they love racing to try to get diving toys before they hit bottom in the deep end. The 5 - 6 foot section of the pool is the least used. It's shallow enough I worry I'll scrape my feet or stub my toes if I'm treading water, but too deep to do anything properly. That depth range for us is strictly a transition. People are either on the ledge/bench, horsing around in the shallow area, or in the deep end. I think there might be considerations of how the pool holds temperature with or without a deep end as well. Your mileage may vary of course, that's just us.

Either way, think of what you're actually going to do in the pool immediately, and try to think about what your family will be doing ten years from now, or longer. Some things to consider....What activities do you see the family doing? Want to play pool volleyball? How will the net be strung? Pool basketball? Swim lane if any of the kids gets competitive? Maybe you end up with a water polo player? Exercise with a deck mounted pull up bar? Place to put drinks? Place you and the wife can relax without being splashed too much by kids playing? Who else will be using it? When you have friends over, where will the drinks be? Is the bar easy to get to for people in and out of the pool? Do you imagine you and your friends standing around the shallow end? Think about future pool parties for the kids. If kids are swimming, where are adults hanging out? Are there points of congestion as people move from house to pool to to bar to bathroom and back? What's the best path for people to jump in, get out, and jump back in again? What about shade at different times of day, are there existing trees that might impact the design and orientation? Is there a particular view in your yard you love or hate? Are views from inside the house important to you? Just really spend some time getting specific about the things you will do in your pool, then imagine how to make those experiences the best.
 
here is the design we are getting close to finalizing, any thoughts on the steps by the tanning ledge. I dont' like steps into the pool like that as I feel like its prone to stub your toe, is it better to have the steps cut into the ledge rather than the other way around? also thoughts on the steps on either side of the hot tub?
 

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