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patplh
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Post subject: why bother clearing the algae  Posted: September 19th, 2011, 7:30 pm |
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Joined: July 28th, 2009, 11:55 pm Posts: 102 Location: Massachusetts
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so, i waited too long to schedule a pool closing and due to various reasons, we haven't gotten around to chlorinating the pool. Right now, it's green.. very green.. and i'm wondering what harm there is to not bringing it to shock level before we close. The reason i ask is because ever since we've had this pool (2.5 yrs) we've opened it to a green swamp and i wonder how much worse it would be if it's already green now.
Also, the pool company who will be closing it for us said they add pool shock before closing and then for add'l $45, they'll add pH buffer, metal (something, i can't read my handwriting), non chlorine shock and something to help with alkalinity. Do I need all that? again, just wondering how much worse my swamp would really get if I didn't get all that.
FYI, we have a safety cover, so it's totally porous and I guess there's no way of avoiding algae anyways with a cover like this?
Thanks
_________________ New owner of a 27,500 gallon gunite pool with waterfall (built 2002), Aerotemp heat pump, Hayward DE4800 Filter, Meyco pool cover, Pentair Model 320 Auto Chlorine Feeder, AOS UST1202 Motor, Hydro-King T104P201 Timer, PB4 Booster Pump, Polaris Cleaner. Located in Massachusetts.
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Richard320
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Post subject: Re: why bother clearing the algae  Posted: September 19th, 2011, 9:16 pm |
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Joined: January 6th, 2010, 10:54 am Posts: 2483 Location: San Dimas, CA (LA County)
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In your case, I'd say, save your money. Adjust pH, then button things up.
Armed with the knowledge in Pool School, and a decent test kit, you'll be able to open in a week or so next spring.
_________________ 16K freeform gunite with spa; Pentair 4000 DE filter; Century Whisperflow 1 HP; Pentair Minimax heater.
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fsteve65
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Post subject: Re: why bother clearing the algae  Posted: September 20th, 2011, 3:35 am |
Joined: June 24th, 2011, 2:14 am Posts: 126 Location: Cape Girardeau, Mo
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I agree with Richard,, and no ,no no you don't need that stuff they are trying to sell you you will just waste $45.00..
_________________ Steve Frakes 15' X 48'' Intex Metal Frame Intex Sand Filter 16'' 2650 GPH Taylor K-2006 Test Kit BBB and Borated
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patplh
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Post subject: Re: why bother clearing the algae  Posted: September 20th, 2011, 2:26 pm |
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Joined: July 28th, 2009, 11:55 pm Posts: 102 Location: Massachusetts
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ok, thanks.. i figure that a swamp before i close and a swamp after i close are just swamps all the same.. i am curious if it's possible to avoid a swamp when i open though..it's never been done before at our house..
btw, i noticed in a few posts that the 'officials' .. ie jason, etc .. recommend adding algaecide.. when we close this year, we'll just be getting shock.. should i have the pool guy add that before we close?
thanks again..
_________________ New owner of a 27,500 gallon gunite pool with waterfall (built 2002), Aerotemp heat pump, Hayward DE4800 Filter, Meyco pool cover, Pentair Model 320 Auto Chlorine Feeder, AOS UST1202 Motor, Hydro-King T104P201 Timer, PB4 Booster Pump, Polaris Cleaner. Located in Massachusetts.
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Butterfly
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Post subject: Re: why bother clearing the algae  Posted: September 20th, 2011, 4:30 pm |
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Joined: May 30th, 2007, 8:57 pm Posts: 6660 Location: South Carolina
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patplh wrote: ok, thanks.. i figure that a swamp before i close and a swamp after i close are just swamps all the same.. i am curious if it's possible to avoid a swamp when i open though..it's never been done before at our house.. You can avoid a swamp when you open by closing late and opening early and following the shock/close method in Pool School;HOWEVER, it will not happen thiscoming season for you as you are closing 'green'. btw, i noticed in a few posts that the 'officials' .. ie jason, etc .. recommend adding algaecide.. when we close this year, we'll just be getting shock.. should i have the pool guy add that before we close? Polyquat 60 is recommended for a 'clean' close as it will help prevent algae, but since you already have algae, no since adding algaecide. Save your $ for spring opening .
If possible, could you post your CYA level at closing and again at opening? thanks again..
_________________ TFP Moderator TF100 Test Kit - Pool Calculator - Pool School - Support This Site - Chlorine/CYA Chart You're done shocking when: 1)You lose 1ppm or less FC overnight, & 2)You have .5ppm CC's or less, & 3)your water is clear. 18K IG White Plaster - 1.5 HP Pump - Hayward S-240 High Rate 300# Sand Filter, TF100 Test Kit "The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it." Chinese Proverb
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polarys425
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Post subject: Re: why bother clearing the algae  Posted: September 22nd, 2011, 5:41 pm |
Joined: April 14th, 2011, 12:49 am Posts: 1
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One of the guys from the pool company that installed our pool came out to replace the flow switch under warranty. He told us that 62F is the magic water temp. Open the pool before the water temp reaches 62F, and close it after it drops below 62F, and you'll eliminate the algae problem. Our pool was installed late summer '09, and so far we've never had an algae bloom. There were several people around us that have a mustard algae bloom this spring, it never affected us.
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chem geek
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Post subject: Re: why bother clearing the algae  Posted: September 22nd, 2011, 6:51 pm |
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Joined: March 28th, 2007, 2:40 pm Posts: 5413 Location: San Rafael, CA USA
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Welcome to TFP! There is no single magic temperature. There are rare reports of algae growing in frozen-over pools though such growth is very, very slow. I usually recommend closing the pool when the water is as cold as possible, though 50ºF is probably quite reasonable, and to open as early as possible. One can certainly pick a different temperature, but the risk is higher at a higher temperature. The colder the temperature the slower algae grows and the longer chlorine lasts if not exposed to sunlight.
_________________ 16,000 gallon outdoor in-ground 16'x32' plaster pool; Pentair Intelliflo VF pump; Pentair IntelliTouch i9+3s control system; Jandy CL-340 square foot cartridge filter 12 Fafco solar panels; Purex Triton PowerMax 250 natural gas heater (200,000 BTU/hr output); automatic electric pool safety cover; 4-wheel pressure-side "The Pool Cleaner"
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