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PhotoEd
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Post subject: Where is Aquarite Flow Sensor?  Posted: March 3rd, 2010, 3:00 pm |
Joined: May 14th, 2009, 3:08 pm Posts: 37 Location: Rocket Town, AL
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Hi all, Getting a "No Flow" message on my generator. It's obvious that I'm getting great flow through the system. Wondering if my sensor could have some trash on it? Is the sensor mounted inside the cell area, or in-line heading to the cell? Any way to identify from the back of the sensor? I have two sensors mounted in-line, both wires run to the controller, but no idea which, if either, is the flow sensor for the SWG. Thanks, 
_________________ 18x36 In-ground Vinyl, 24,000 gallons. Sand Filter, 1hp Hayward. SWG Polaris 280
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Brentr
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Post subject: Re: Where is Aquarite Flow Sensor?  Posted: March 4th, 2010, 7:14 am |
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All I have is one wire going to a sensor in the t- fitting. According to my manual this is a flow sensor. When I disconnect it, I still see the temp displaying a temp. and the flow sensor light comes on. I can only assume that the temp sensor is built into the chlorine cell. Hope this helps..
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polyvue
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Post subject: Re: Where is Aquarite Flow Sensor?  Posted: March 4th, 2010, 10:49 am |
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Brentr wrote: All I have is one wire going to a sensor in the t- fitting. According to my manual this is a flow sensor. When I disconnect it, I still see the temp displaying a temp. and the flow sensor light comes on. I can only assume that the temp sensor is built into the chlorine cell. I have the Aqua Rite T-Cell 15 connected to a Goldline PS-8 controller. The flow sensor on my system is plumbed into the post-filter return pipe before the cell. The visible portion is octagonal shaped, just as sphishex described. The separate temp sensor, held in place with a strap and metal band was placed between pump and filter. The controller reports "pool" temperature (from the individual sensor just before the filter) and "cell" tempertature separately, so there must be feedback coming from another temp sensor in the cell, as Brent suggested.
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Poolsean
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Post subject: Re: Where is Aquarite Flow Sensor?  Posted: March 4th, 2010, 4:01 pm |
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Joined: April 15th, 2007, 9:48 pm Posts: 1143 Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida
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Depending on how old your Aqua Rite unit is, you may not have a temp sensor. Older models only had a flow sensor.
_________________ Sean Assam
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PhotoEd
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Post subject: Re: Where is Aquarite Flow Sensor?  Posted: March 4th, 2010, 4:11 pm |
Joined: May 14th, 2009, 3:08 pm Posts: 37 Location: Rocket Town, AL
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spishex wrote: The flow switch is threaded into a "Tee" fitting and has an octagonal profile from the outside. Bingo! This describes what I see perfectly! Off to pull it out and see what's up! Thanks! I guess I should have asked this previously, but is it even possible to have a flow switch signal interupted (NO FLOW) due to trash collecting against the sensor? I realize this location is post-filter, but hoping for the "easy fix". 
_________________ 18x36 In-ground Vinyl, 24,000 gallons. Sand Filter, 1hp Hayward. SWG Polaris 280
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Poolsean
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Post subject: Re: Where is Aquarite Flow Sensor?  Posted: March 4th, 2010, 4:39 pm |
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The flow switch is simply a micro switch. Its detecting an open circuit or closed circuit. You can verify if your flow switch is working or if its your control box/circuit board. Check your flow switch wires also. You may have a nick or cut on one of the two wires, which will show as a no flow condition.
TURN THE POWER OFF!!! If you trace the flow switch wires to the control box, remove them and replace with a short jumper wire across the same terminals the flow switch was connected to. Turn the system back on. If the unit now shows proper operation, it's not your control box because you've just simulated a good flow condition. With the system still running, put a multimeter on continuity and check the two flow switch wires. With proper flow to activate the flow switch, you should see a closed circuit condition.
Finally, turn the pump off and remove the flow switch. This should look like a gray body with a long center post and a stainless steel paddle with a magnetic disk glued to it. If the magnet fell off, no flow. Or the flow switch may look like a hinged paddle, without the center post. In either case, when the water flow hits the paddle, it moves it to activate the micro switch. Put your multimeter probes on the flow switch wires and move the paddle by hand to simulate good flow, and check for continuity. If everything checks out, time to look at your plumbing for something blocking flow.
_________________ Sean Assam
Commercial Products Sales Manager
Aqua Cal Heat Pumps
AutoPilot Salt Chlorine Generators
www.autopilot.com
www.aquacal.com
sean@teamhorner.com
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JasonLion
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Post subject: Re: Where is Aquarite Flow Sensor?  Posted: March 4th, 2010, 4:41 pm |
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Flow switches can malfunction in a variety of ways. Yes, it is possible for some bit of debris to get stuck in the switch and jam it either open or closed. That isn't the most likely possibility, but it certainly is one of the plausible possiblities.
_________________ 19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot TFP Admin. Creator of The Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School
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PhotoEd
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Post subject: Re: Where is Aquarite Flow Sensor?  Posted: March 4th, 2010, 6:15 pm |
Joined: May 14th, 2009, 3:08 pm Posts: 37 Location: Rocket Town, AL
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Thanks for all the help gang! I went ahead and pulled the switch (out of curiosity as much as anything)...here's what I'm looking at. I get the feeling that the hole in the end of the sensor isn't there to save weight! 
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_________________ 18x36 In-ground Vinyl, 24,000 gallons. Sand Filter, 1hp Hayward. SWG Polaris 280
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spishex
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Post subject: Re: Where is Aquarite Flow Sensor?  Posted: March 4th, 2010, 6:21 pm |
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Here's what it should look like:  The metal part that opens/closes the circuit is MIA on yours. You'll need to replace the switch.
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PhotoEd
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Post subject: Re: Where is Aquarite Flow Sensor?  Posted: March 4th, 2010, 6:24 pm |
Joined: May 14th, 2009, 3:08 pm Posts: 37 Location: Rocket Town, AL
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MAN! You guys are fast! Just found that info as well...looks like I'm in the market for a new switch. Called the west coast and it will ship tomorrow! Thanks TFP!!! 
_________________ 18x36 In-ground Vinyl, 24,000 gallons. Sand Filter, 1hp Hayward. SWG Polaris 280
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Poolsean
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Post subject: Re: Where is Aquarite Flow Sensor?  Posted: March 4th, 2010, 9:40 pm |
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Joined: April 15th, 2007, 9:48 pm Posts: 1143 Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida
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Well, quite obviously the flow paddle is missing. Now the question is how did it erode away? Do you have the flow switch located after the SCG cell? Are you adding tabs to the skimmer basket?
_________________ Sean Assam
Commercial Products Sales Manager
Aqua Cal Heat Pumps
AutoPilot Salt Chlorine Generators
www.autopilot.com
www.aquacal.com
sean@teamhorner.com
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PhotoEd
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Post subject: Re: Where is Aquarite Flow Sensor?  Posted: March 5th, 2010, 8:25 am |
Joined: May 14th, 2009, 3:08 pm Posts: 37 Location: Rocket Town, AL
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I guess it would be obvious to someone who has looked at this kind of flow switch before. I would not fall into that category. The sensor is located up-stream of the cell. I do not add any chlorine to the pool in any way, just the SWG. Again, thanks for your help gang. 
_________________ 18x36 In-ground Vinyl, 24,000 gallons. Sand Filter, 1hp Hayward. SWG Polaris 280
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JasonLion
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Post subject: Re: Where is Aquarite Flow Sensor?  Posted: March 5th, 2010, 8:29 am |
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You should examine the cell to see if the broken off flow paddle has lodged it's self in the cell somewhere.
_________________ 19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot TFP Admin. Creator of The Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School
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PhotoEd
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Post subject: Re: Where is Aquarite Flow Sensor?  Posted: March 5th, 2010, 8:51 am |
Joined: May 14th, 2009, 3:08 pm Posts: 37 Location: Rocket Town, AL
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Copy. 
_________________ 18x36 In-ground Vinyl, 24,000 gallons. Sand Filter, 1hp Hayward. SWG Polaris 280
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waste
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Post subject: Re: Where is Aquarite Flow Sensor?  Posted: March 5th, 2010, 1:03 pm |
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Welcome to TFP!! Warning!!!It is VERY easy to crack the Tee that the sensor goes in! Please read Tim's advice here on using Teflon and only tighten it hand tight at first. If it leaks when hand tight, remove it and take off all the old Teflon, retape it and reinstall it. I'm just trying to save you a potentailly huge headache 
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PhotoEd
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Post subject: Re: Where is Aquarite Flow Sensor?  Posted: March 5th, 2010, 1:33 pm |
Joined: May 14th, 2009, 3:08 pm Posts: 37 Location: Rocket Town, AL
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Copy 
_________________ 18x36 In-ground Vinyl, 24,000 gallons. Sand Filter, 1hp Hayward. SWG Polaris 280
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