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Bluegrassman
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Post subject: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 4th, 2012, 8:38 pm |
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Our PB says they only use Waterway. Any opinions on this brand?
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PoolGuyNJ
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Post subject: Re: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 4th, 2012, 9:52 pm |
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Joined: May 20th, 2007, 4:29 pm Posts: 3053 Location: South Central NJ
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They don't make lights, they don't make heaters, they don't make automation, they don't make a turnkey solution with extended warranties.
Quality is fair to good on pumps and filters so I see no need to use them unless its a repair job.
One thing do do well is make spa jets.
Scott
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Bluegrassman
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Post subject: Re: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 4th, 2012, 9:59 pm |
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Joined: January 20th, 2012, 11:20 pm Posts: 121 Location: West KY
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Thank you for your input. I will discuss with our PB alternatives. May just have to supply my own.
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thepoolman
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Post subject: Re: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 5th, 2012, 4:37 pm |
Joined: January 24th, 2012, 12:21 pm Posts: 96
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If you've got an easytouch, an intelliflo/pro would be a good choice.
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palmettopool
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Post subject: Re: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 5th, 2012, 11:22 pm |
Joined: February 5th, 2012, 10:13 pm Posts: 4
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I have only come across one Waterway in all my day, and I wasn't very impressed. With pumps I pretty much use Pentair exclusively. I agree with poolman, Intelliflos are very nice. and will be completely programmable/controllable with your easytouch.
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Bluegrassman
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Post subject: Re: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 7th, 2012, 5:15 pm |
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Joined: January 20th, 2012, 11:20 pm Posts: 121 Location: West KY
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You guys convinced me. A little studying is all it took. I've talked to our PB and will be going with a 1-1.5HP Pentair Intellifo VF drive motor/pump.
It will cost several hundred $$$ more, but I suspect it will be worth it and pay for itself in the long run.
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Bluegrassman
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Post subject: Re: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 8th, 2012, 5:10 pm |
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Joined: January 20th, 2012, 11:20 pm Posts: 121 Location: West KY
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My builder wanted $1750 for the Pentair VF High Performance pump...same one I can order direct for $1189..so...I'm ordering it myself.
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Last edited by Bluegrassman on February 8th, 2012, 6:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Bluegrassman
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Post subject: Re: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 8th, 2012, 6:22 pm |
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Joined: January 20th, 2012, 11:20 pm Posts: 121 Location: West KY
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Just to be sure before I place my order, you guys think the Pentair 011012 will be plenty adequate for my ~28,500 gal. pool?
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mas985
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Post subject: Re: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 8th, 2012, 6:37 pm |
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IMHO, I think it is probably much more pump than you will need. If you need to have more than two speeds, a VS is a good choice and for places where the electrical rates are high, it can make sense. But a two speed can save almost as much energy as a VS and it costs much less. In many cases, a two speed can have a lower life time costs than a VS.
But if you do decide to go with the Intelliflo, you really don't need more than the VS-3050 because you have the controller already. That should save you about $400.
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thepoolman
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Post subject: Re: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 8th, 2012, 8:10 pm |
Joined: January 24th, 2012, 12:21 pm Posts: 96
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Mas is correct. All intelliflo pumps are based around and have the capacity of a 3hp whisperflo or maxepro, which is probably more than most any residential pool needs. Whoever installs it will probably program a max rpm so that it does not exceed what the rest of your equipment can handle.
With that said, you can tune a VSP to whatever your needs are. With a 2 speed you are limited to those two speeds only and if the low speed isn't what you want then you're stuck with it. Judging by your setup, there's a good chance you'll only use two or three of those speeds, but they'll be the ones you need. Add that to the construction of the VS motors (aluminum, TEFC) and the prime and freeze protection that VS pumps offer, and it makes the extra cost worth IMO.
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Bluegrassman
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Post subject: Re: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 8th, 2012, 8:44 pm |
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Ok, one more question. We will have a large waterfall that will be powered from this pump also. Would the VF not be better considering the waterfall will be valved in and out on a varying schedule? I would like the flow to adjust to automatically compensate for this. I really appreciate the input. I'm hoping to have this set up to be as relatively care free as possible.
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thepoolman
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Post subject: Re: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 8th, 2012, 9:02 pm |
Joined: January 24th, 2012, 12:21 pm Posts: 96
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If I understand your question correctly, mas is correct in what he says. The controller will tell your pump what to do in those situations. For instance, you'll program the valve for the fountain to open at a certain time and the speed to adjust at that same time.
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Bluegrassman
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Post subject: Re: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 8th, 2012, 9:51 pm |
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Thanks guys  Sent From My Inspire 4G Using Tapatalk
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Bluegrassman
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Post subject: Re: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 11th, 2012, 7:12 pm |
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Ordered from In The Swim thru Amazon. Pump arrived via FedEx today. That was FAST! But I have a question: there is obvious moisture on the strainer lid. Is this normal? Hoping it is just due to the cold temps around here the last few days.
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Bluegrassman
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Post subject: Re: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 11th, 2012, 8:42 pm |
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Picture of the pump still in the box
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PoolGuyNJ
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Post subject: Re: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 12th, 2012, 6:55 am |
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Joined: May 20th, 2007, 4:29 pm Posts: 3053 Location: South Central NJ
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From the factory test. Not a problem. The are all like that out of the box.
Scott
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Bluegrassman
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Post subject: Re: Waterway pump/motor  Posted: February 12th, 2012, 8:47 am |
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Thanks Scott. That is a relief Sent From My Inspire 4G Using Tapatalk
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