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waterbear
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: June 14th, 2009, 10:01 pm |
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Gooserider wrote: On a related subject, I notice your instructions kept suggesting reading things in "natural light" - I usually do most of my testing at night, in the comfort of our kitchen using a bottle of water I brought in from the pool... The light in our kitchen is from CF bulbs, how much of a difference does that make?
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For the titrations it will not be a problem. You might have some problems with the pH test (perhaps this is why so many people complain that they cannot differentiate the colors.) I prefer using a northern blue sky for that test and the CYA test ia really best done outside in open shade. It is next to impossible to get acuurate readings from a borate test strip in anything but daylight BTW. Even a Daylight bulb with a high CRI does not really help. CF lights do not have a very good CRI so they are not good for any tests that require color matching.
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YourAvonCareer
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: June 15th, 2009, 11:43 am |
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PaulR wrote: I collected a bunch of testing info from around the forum and managed to put everything I wanted onto one page, and still kept a 10-pt font. Many thanks to JasonLion for reviewing it (twice!). Jason also suggested posting the text directly, as well as the one-page PDF, so I have done that. Enjoy! --paulr Water Testing Instructions Thank you! I am knew to the forums and this is my first post. As I have been reading thru the threads- I was not looking forward to figuring out what ALL of the abbreviations meant. ...........and I was not going to reply to posts JUST to ask "What does X@#* mean?". This is a great thread to keep ON TOP for all newbies!I attached it as a Word document that I will print and keep with my pool supplies/printouts.
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waterbear
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: June 15th, 2009, 11:59 am |
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YourAvonCareer wrote: I am knew to the forums and this is my first post.
As I have been reading thru the threads- I was not looking forward to figuring out what ALL of the abbreviations meant. ...........and I was not going to reply to posts JUST to ask "What does X@#* mean?".
In the upper right of every page is a link to Pool School. Click on it and read everything in there at least twice. One of the topics in pool school is Definitions and Abbreviations pool-school/swimming_pool_definitions_abbreviationsOnce you have read thorugh Pool School a couple of times you should be pretty much "up to speed" on what we are talking about in the forum and will have a good basic understanding on how to care for your own pool! After reading Pool School you might want to check out some of the advanced topics listed at the end or you might want to post questions in the forum for clarifications on anything you don't understand.
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PaulR
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: June 15th, 2009, 12:24 pm |
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Joined: January 11th, 2009, 6:59 pm Posts: 1974 Location: Cupertino, CA
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CYA instructions revised again ("to the mark") and a new file posted in the original note. --paulr
_________________ BBB "Intermediate Swimmer" IG plaster pool 18.5K gal, Hayward Pro-Grid DE filter, 3/4 HP Hydramax II; Polaris 380, 3/4 HP booster AG spa 325 gal, probably Sundance of some kind Water testing instructions on one page
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geoshecks
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: June 15th, 2009, 4:44 pm |
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You can order a 7/14 mixing bottle and smaller view tube from taylor tech.
_________________ Geoshecks Perry Hall, Maryland 27' round above ground, 17100 gal, vinyl, Hayward1.5hp, 200lb.sand, EX baqua-goo user.
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YourAvonCareer
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: June 15th, 2009, 6:01 pm |
Joined: June 14th, 2009, 9:20 am Posts: 2
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waterbear wrote: YourAvonCareer wrote: I am knew to the forums and this is my first post. As I have been reading thru the threads- I was not looking forward to figuring out what ALL of the abbreviations meant.
In the upper right of every page is a link to Pool School. Definitions and Abbreviations After reading Pool School you might want to check out some of the advanced topics listed at the end or you might want to post questions in the forum for clarifications on anything you don't understand. Thank you !
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aqualicious
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: June 22nd, 2009, 5:39 pm |
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Thankyou!! This is exactly what I was going to start asking questions about....Now I think I'll only have about 50 questions left to ask before the pool is up and running.
_________________ 21' 54" Round AG, 10K gallons,1HP 2 speed pump, Sand filter 200lb Have had a sparkling BBB pool all summer....
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PaulR
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: August 1st, 2009, 12:49 pm |
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Instructions revised to recommend continuous swirling for titration tests (FAS-DPD, TA, CH). --paulr
_________________ BBB "Intermediate Swimmer" IG plaster pool 18.5K gal, Hayward Pro-Grid DE filter, 3/4 HP Hydramax II; Polaris 380, 3/4 HP booster AG spa 325 gal, probably Sundance of some kind Water testing instructions on one page
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mickey4paws
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: August 1st, 2009, 7:25 pm |
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PaulR wrote: Instructions revised to recommend continuous swirling for titration tests (FAS-DPD, TA, CH). --paulr Now this makes me want to get one of those magnetic stirrers! 
_________________ IG 12' x 39' - 20k Gallons - Vinyl Lined - StaRite Cristal-Flo II 26" Sand Filter - Hayward SuperPump 1 hp - Dolphin Dynamic autocleaner - Lochinvar Energyrite gas heater - Aqua Rite SWCG
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waterbear
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: August 1st, 2009, 7:35 pm |
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mickey4paws wrote: PaulR wrote: Instructions revised to recommend continuous swirling for titration tests (FAS-DPD, TA, CH). --paulr Now this makes me want to get one of those magnetic stirrers!  You won't regret it!
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saml
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: August 8th, 2009, 9:19 am |
Joined: June 3rd, 2008, 6:08 pm Posts: 46 Location: Near Knoxville TN
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I've been searching for this but didn't find an answer. On the Water Testing Instructions on One Page for a CYA test it has, "3) Shake about 30 sec; let stand 2-3 minutes; briefly shake again." However the TF-100 instructions say, "1. Fill the Red-capped CYA mixing bottle to the bottom line with pool water. Now, fill the bottle to the top line with R-0013. Mix, then wait at least 30 seconds. Shake once more." Which way is correct?
_________________ 18X36 IG vinyl 22100 gal. 1.0 HP Hayward Pump w/300# Hayward sand filter.
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JasonLion
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: August 8th, 2009, 10:52 am |
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They are both correct. The instructions on the one page instructions are slightly more reliable in unusual situations. The TF100 instructions will work just as well except in some rare cases (for example very cold pool water).
_________________ 19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot TFP Admin. Creator of The Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School
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WaterWoman
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: August 9th, 2009, 2:57 pm |
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I have a question about the CYA test. It's a very subjective visual test, and my eyes aren't all that great to begin with, so... what exactly does "until the black dot just disappears" mean? When I do the test, there are usually bubbles that form each time I add a few drops of the solution, and I figure I have to wait for them to clear first to see the dot since they obscure my view. And also, sometimes the immediate result after adding a few drops is that the black dot disappears for a second or two, but then reappears. So, do I count that as the point where it "just disappears," or since it reappeared within seconds, do I keep going until it stays completely invisible?
_________________ 20,000 gallon in-ground gunite ~ sand filter (62 gpm) w/Vari-Flo valve (75 gpm) ~ 1.0 HP dual-speed pump
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JasonLion
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: August 9th, 2009, 5:03 pm |
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You want to add as little liquid as possible and still have the black dot remain invisible after several seconds.
_________________ 19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot TFP Admin. Creator of The Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School
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PaulR
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: August 9th, 2009, 5:15 pm |
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I aim the mixing tube nozzle at the side of the view tube, so the additional liquid runs down the side. Minimizes the air bubbles.
If you can tell that the dot is still there after a couple seconds, or after you wiggle the tube a little, then it's still visible and you need to add a little more to the view tube. --paulr
_________________ BBB "Intermediate Swimmer" IG plaster pool 18.5K gal, Hayward Pro-Grid DE filter, 3/4 HP Hydramax II; Polaris 380, 3/4 HP booster AG spa 325 gal, probably Sundance of some kind Water testing instructions on one page
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DanK
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: August 13th, 2009, 2:16 pm |
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Jason, this would be a great addition to pool school since PaulR worked so hard on it  since it seams you guys(and Gals) have agreed on the proper procedures. I know it helped me alot. Thanks PaulR for taking the time to write it up!!!!
_________________ laguna portable pool 13x25 , 9k gal , hayward 16" sand filter,hayward power flo lx 1hp pump. tf test kit
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PaulR
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: January 13th, 2010, 10:57 am |
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Removed alternate sample size instructions for FAS-DPD and TA (almost never needed). Removed "20-30 sec" instructions for CH (waterbear never explained why he said this, and experimentation doesn't show a consistent difference). Added some guidelines when it might be worthwhile using the alternate sample size for CH test. --paulr
_________________ BBB "Intermediate Swimmer" IG plaster pool 18.5K gal, Hayward Pro-Grid DE filter, 3/4 HP Hydramax II; Polaris 380, 3/4 HP booster AG spa 325 gal, probably Sundance of some kind Water testing instructions on one page
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Mike5150
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: April 3rd, 2010, 3:58 pm |
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I just ordered the TF-100 kit and have not received or used anything but the test strips so far, so excuse my ignorance if this is an obvious question. I noticed on your PDF and the first post there are no instructions for a pH test. I also thought it might be helpful to include along with the abbreviations the the Trouble Free Pools recommended chemical levels (unless of course these are already included with the kit) Great post, I look forward to using it throughout the year!
_________________ 30 foot round AGP (25k gal), 2.5 hp pump, Hayward cartridge filter, Diver Dan pool vac, TF-100 Test kit -It takes less time to do things right then it does to do it again.
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PaulR
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Post subject: Re: Water Testing Instructions on One Page  Posted: April 3rd, 2010, 5:40 pm |
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Instructions for pH are included with OTO chlorine, in the first block of instructions.
Level recommendations vary depending on the circumstances; there are too many variations to include easily. (CH target depends on pool surface; CYA depends on whether you have a SWG, and your latitude; FC depends on your CYA and whether you have a SWG; and so on.) I suggest when you've worked out your own target levels, just write them in yourself. --paulr
(And thanks!)
_________________ BBB "Intermediate Swimmer" IG plaster pool 18.5K gal, Hayward Pro-Grid DE filter, 3/4 HP Hydramax II; Polaris 380, 3/4 HP booster AG spa 325 gal, probably Sundance of some kind Water testing instructions on one page
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