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Acadian
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Post subject: Vinyl liner replaced last year  Posted: June 29th, 2011, 8:04 pm |
Joined: June 15th, 2010, 10:56 am Posts: 61 Location: NB, Canada
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I had my liner replaced last summer. I noticed tonight that near an edge in my pool design, the liner is already white (i.e. color worn off). Is this normal after one winter? It's not a huge spot (maybe the size of 2 or 3 quarters) and it's just at the water line.
I know it gets cold in Canada, but if a liner is supposed to last over 10 years, this can't be normal!
Thanks!
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Suziqzer
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Post subject: Re: Vinyl liner replaced last year  Posted: June 29th, 2011, 8:17 pm |
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Is it near a place where you've added chlorine? Sometimes that can cause some discoloring if you have high concentrations of it.
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Acadian
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Post subject: Re: Vinyl liner replaced last year  Posted: June 29th, 2011, 9:18 pm |
Joined: June 15th, 2010, 10:56 am Posts: 61 Location: NB, Canada
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No, it's a few feet from the diving board. I'm assuming the ice over the winter might have done this. I am just wondering why it scraped off the paint after one winter. These things are supposed to last a long time.
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Acadian
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Post subject: Re: Vinyl liner replaced last year  Posted: July 4th, 2011, 11:09 am |
Joined: June 15th, 2010, 10:56 am Posts: 61 Location: NB, Canada
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Anyone?
Is it normal for a liner to have the design scratched off after one winter? It's near water level, so i'm guessing it was done by ice.
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waste
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Post subject: Re: Vinyl liner replaced last year  Posted: July 4th, 2011, 6:55 pm |
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Do you have a robotic cleaner that might have 'hung up' in that area?
Can you post a pic, or 2, showing the area and the diving board?
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Acadian
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Post subject: Re: Vinyl liner replaced last year  Posted: July 5th, 2011, 11:27 am |
Joined: June 15th, 2010, 10:56 am Posts: 61 Location: NB, Canada
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I don't think my cleaner would have gotten stuck where the scratches are. It's not a robotic one, it uses suction (unless that is what you mean by robotic).
It's just at water level and not under the diving board, but probably 5 feet to the right of it.
I'll try and post pics later tonight.
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Acadian
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Post subject: Re: Vinyl liner replaced last year  Posted: September 6th, 2011, 8:19 am |
Joined: June 15th, 2010, 10:56 am Posts: 61 Location: NB, Canada
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Well, i sent the pictures to the installer ( i will try and post them later tonight). The manufacturer says that it is a defect and covered under warranty. However, they do not cover labor.
The labor is a significant cost! I'm guessing a few thousand.
Seems to me a one year old liner should have labor under warranty. I am not paying for this to be installed again!
Has anyone gone through this before? Do i have any options? I'm open to suggestions.
Thanks!
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CaOCl2
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Post subject: Re: Vinyl liner replaced last year  Posted: September 6th, 2011, 9:25 am |
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Joined: May 23rd, 2007, 12:42 pm Posts: 265 Location: Montreal Canada
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In my liner warranty it does mention that discoloration, whatever the type and cause, is not covered. Your warranty may be different. Replacement under warranty usually does not include labour (same as car mufflers, heatpump compressors etc).
Just as an aside the liners we have available here are **** when compared to what is available in Europe, these are 3-ply laminated construction (polyester mesh sandwiched between 2 sheets of PPVC), 60 mil construction (that's 1,5 mm), available glazed or non-glazed, non-slip versions are available. Available in rolls 50 meters long, they're cut, fitted and welded in place, and carry a full 25 year warranty. About $30 CDN per square meter, plus installation.
Do post pictures of your liner though.
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Acadian
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Post subject: Re: Vinyl liner replaced last year  Posted: September 7th, 2011, 9:29 pm |
Joined: June 15th, 2010, 10:56 am Posts: 61 Location: NB, Canada
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Here are a few pictures of the worn liner...
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keithw
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Post subject: Re: Vinyl liner replaced last year  Posted: September 8th, 2011, 7:22 am |
Joined: March 30th, 2007, 7:32 am Posts: 143 Location: Virginia Beach
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If I had to guess I would say it was an animal. Looks like it is right near the waterline. It might have been trying the get at something in the pool or trying to get out of the pool.
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Acadian
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Post subject: Re: Vinyl liner replaced last year  Posted: September 8th, 2011, 8:37 am |
Joined: June 15th, 2010, 10:56 am Posts: 61 Location: NB, Canada
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Bama Rambler wrote: Do you have something that floats in the pool all the time? That's a scrub wear pattern. I have a solar blanket this summer, but the pattern was rubbed off when i opened from the winter. There is ice in the pool over the winter and last winter, the pool guys didn't instal the big black tarp i have to cover the pool. So i thought it was the ice rubbing the pattern off. Is that possible? What i need to know is: 1) Will this deteriorate and make the liner wear earlier than it should? 2) The company says it is covered under warranty, is it worth replacing it now (labor isn't covered)? 3) I have a huge black tarp that covers the pool for the winter. They didn't install it last winter...would this prevent the pattern scratching off if i use it? Thanks!
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Acadian
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Post subject: Re: Vinyl liner replaced last year  Posted: September 8th, 2011, 11:31 am |
Joined: June 15th, 2010, 10:56 am Posts: 61 Location: NB, Canada
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My pool is roman shaped (rectangular with half moons at each end).
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Post subject: Re: Vinyl liner replaced last year  Posted: September 8th, 2011, 3:57 pm |
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How long would a new liner last if stored? (forgive my ignorance, I know nothing about vinyl liners really.)
Could you get it replaced, but wait to install it? Also, is liner installation something only pool builders can do?
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Acadian
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Post subject: Re: Vinyl liner replaced last year  Posted: September 9th, 2011, 8:02 am |
Joined: June 15th, 2010, 10:56 am Posts: 61 Location: NB, Canada
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I was thinking the same thing...
Could i get the replacement liner and keep it to install years later? I want it, but i really don't have the budget to get it installed right now.
I don't think it's easy enough to install it myself...
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Acadian
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Post subject: Re: Vinyl liner replaced last year  Posted: September 21st, 2011, 11:04 am |
Joined: June 15th, 2010, 10:56 am Posts: 61 Location: NB, Canada
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Bump!
Can anyone comment on my previous post?
Is it possible to get a new liner and keep it in the box until i need it?
Thanks!
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