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 Post subject: Ultra pure ozone generator not working
PostPosted: July 1st, 2012, 6:39 pm 
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Went out today and noticed that my pool was green, yuck! Went over to the equipment and the little ball that usually bounces up and down in the tube on the ultra pure box wasn't moving and will not move. The equipment is about 5 years old, is this a typical lifespan? Is there anything I can check to get it to work?

The information on the pool equipment readout doesn't show anything is wrong, I.e., the flow meter says its flowing, chlorinator, etc..

Any ideas?

I am really concerned about getting my pool back up to sparkling clean, the green has moved in quickly and I couldn't scrub it off. :(



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 Post subject: Re: Ultra pure ozone generator not working
PostPosted: July 1st, 2012, 6:48 pm 
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The ozone generator failing likely had VERY little to do with your pool turning green.

Post up a full set of test results and lets see if we can find the real reason for the algae showing up.



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 Post subject: Re: Ultra pure ozone generator not working
PostPosted: July 1st, 2012, 7:08 pm 
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Total chlorine 3
Free chlorine 1
Ph 8.4
Total alkalinity180
Cyanuric acid



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 Post subject: Re: Ultra pure ozone generator not working
PostPosted: July 1st, 2012, 7:17 pm 
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Did your last post get clipped off? CYA is the key number we are looking for.



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 Post subject: Re: Ultra pure ozone generator not working
PostPosted: July 1st, 2012, 7:57 pm 
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The Cya is 30-50



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PostPosted: July 1st, 2012, 8:24 pm 
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Your PH is way too high. You need to bring down your PH to something more reasonable, say between 7.2 and 7.4 first. You never want to allow PH to go above 8.0, and preferably never above 7.8.

It sounds like you have a saltwater chlorine generator. If so, your CYA level is way too low. CYA should be between 70 and 80 for use with a SWG. However, fix the algae problem first, then raise the CYA level.

You need to shock the pool. Shocking is an ongoing process that involves raising the FC level to shock level, waiting an hour, and repeating until you pass the overnight FC loss test, CC is 0.5 or lower, and the water is clear. For complete details see the article on how to shock your pool in Pool School.



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 Post subject: Re: Ultra pure ozone generator not working
PostPosted: July 1st, 2012, 9:46 pm 
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What is the cc?

We have a function called super chlorinator on our equipment display, should I use this?

Yes, it is a sW pool. I don't really understand how to chock, I've read the information but still don't fully grasp it (I'm more artistic and kind of dense I guess).

I will re read and try. I may have to end up enlisting a pool service.

Thanks for all of your help!



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 Post subject: Re: Ultra pure ozone generator not working
PostPosted: July 1st, 2012, 9:53 pm 
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Cc is combined chlorine, it is the "bad" stuff. According to your results, your cc is 2.0 (Tc=FC+cc)

Do not use the SWG to shock. It adds the FC way to slowly even on super chlorinate and using that shortens the cell life. Use liquid chlorine and follow the instructions in pool school.

If you have questions just ask as we have helped 100s through the process.

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 Post subject: Re: Ultra pure ozone generator not working
PostPosted: July 1st, 2012, 10:31 pm 
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Ok, I'm going to give it the old college try, I added liquid chlorine. I will check the chlorine levels in the morning and see if I can post them and get a reply from someone. I will continue to scrub down the walls, though it doesn't seem to have much impact on the algae, maybe the chlorine will start to do some of the work.

Thanks again for your help.

I'm thinking I still need to get the ozone thing fixed on my pool? I think that is what turns the salt to chlorine?



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 Post subject: Re: Ultra pure ozone generator not working
PostPosted: July 1st, 2012, 10:36 pm 
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Like other's have said your green water issue is unlikely to be related to your ozonator, having said that these Ozonators are fairly simple inside, assuming it is not a blown fuse, there are really only a couple of parts that can fail, depending on the exact model you have it may contain a couple of long thin bulbs, as well as a fairly large heavy magnetic ballast, alternatively if a newer model it may contain one or two high voltage power supplies / transformers and a couple of small "starter" circuit boards in place of the ballast. If you understand how a fluorescent light fixture works then you understand one of these ozonators.

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p.s. the Ozonator is not related to your salt water chlorinator, instead it offers a supplemental source of oxidation, I have one on my indoor pool to help keep CC build up low since it has very minimal UV light exposure from the sun.

after rereading your post I suspect you have one of the newer style ozonators with the high voltage power supplies instead of the old style magnetic ballast as you have the newer style with the permanently installed flow meter (ball thing)



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 Post subject: Re: Ultra pure ozone generator not working
PostPosted: July 1st, 2012, 10:44 pm 
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I replaced the transformer on my pump. Do you know if the transformer is specific to the ozonator, or a standard transformer? I will look at it tomorrow.



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 Post subject: Re: Ultra pure ozone generator not working
PostPosted: July 2nd, 2012, 6:08 am 
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I'm thinking I still need to get the ozone thing fixed on my pool? I think that is what turns the salt to chlorine?
No, the SWG does that. Assuming your pool is outdoors, the ozonator is not helping you....I would not fix it.



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 Post subject: Re: Ultra pure ozone generator not working
PostPosted: July 2nd, 2012, 7:28 am 
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Ok, this morning my readings are

TC 5
Fc 5
Ph 8.4
TA. 180
Cya 0

5 is the highest my test kit goes up to. It seems like the green is a little less intense this morning. Do I need to continue adding liquid bleach and/or shock to the pool? Is the hth shock n swim what I use? Can I add it during the day? We are getting temperatures in the upper 90's to 100.



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 Post subject: Re: Ultra pure ozone generator not working
PostPosted: July 2nd, 2012, 10:21 am 
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CYA does not just drop from 30-50ppm to 0. what test kit are you using?

Clearly you need one of the recommended test kits with the FAS-DPD chlorine test. Without it taking care of the pool is guys work.

You need to get the CYA up to around 30 and then follow the shock process which requires you to maintain a FC well above what you kit will measure.

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 Post subject: Re: Ultra pure ozone generator not working
PostPosted: July 2nd, 2012, 1:43 pm 
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I think I must have initially measured the cya wrong. I have a test that has pool strips where you compare the colors on the bottle to the strip after dipping into pool.

So I need one of the test kits where you add the different drops to the water?



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 Post subject: Re: Ultra pure ozone generator not working
PostPosted: July 2nd, 2012, 2:08 pm 
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Unfortunately the test strips are about the worst as far as accuracy and repeat-ability.

See the link in my signature for a comparison of the test kits we recommend. The TF100 ends up being a better valve for the quantity of reagents you get. What is nice about the drop tests is there is very little open to interpretation. For many of the test you are just counting drops until the color changes.

The test kit really is the best investments you can make to help you maintain your pool.



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PostPosted: July 2nd, 2012, 2:57 pm 
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The high voltage transformer is specific to the Ultra-Pure Ozonator, there is a place online you can buy parts:

http://www.ozoneparts.com/

Also parts sometimes show up on ebay at a much lower cost

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 Post subject: Re: Ultra pure ozone generator not working
PostPosted: August 14th, 2012, 9:18 am 
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Hi argrza,

My name is Brian and I work at UltraPure. Please give me a call and I will help you get this issue resolved.



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