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    First Test with TF-100 on a new SWG Pool...Oh Lord, please don't let me muck up...

    Okay, so I got my Kit, did my testing, and here are my numbers
    FC - 5ppm
    CC - 1ppm
    TC - 6ppm
    TA - 70
    CYA - 0

    CL - 5
    pH - 7.8
    With the K-1766 - 4400ppm, this does not correspond with my SWG generated number, which is saying 3400ppm, and I am getting no high salt alarms on the display, are the known to be off by that much, and if so, which number should I go by?

    Do these numbers sound reasonable for a new pool, I trust the kit, just want to make sure I am doing and interpreting them correctly, I am eagerly awaiting everyone's responses and inputs!
    I did do the poolmath, it says to add 21 oz. of MA, 205 oz. of Baking Soda, 905 oz. of CC, 155 oz. of stabilizer, and to drain and refill 23% of the pool.
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    Re: First Test with TF-100 on a new SWG Pool...Oh Lord, please don't let me muck up..

    FC - 5ppm-good
    CC - 1ppm-high-we will work on this
    TC - 6ppm
    TA - 70-could be just right
    CYA - 0-LOW-we will work on it

    CL - 5???Is this the yellow test?
    pH - 7.8-kind of high-we will work on it

    "I did do the poolmath, it says to add 21 oz. of MA=this will lower the PH so is good,

    205 oz. of Baking Soda=not sure why it says this,

    905 oz. of CC what is CC?,

    155 oz. of stabilizeryes, this will get your CYA up. I would only add about half at a time. Wait a week to test.,

    and to drain and refill 23% of the pool"??????????????I wonder why??? Nothing is that off! Hummm I would hold off on this.


    I have a couple of links for you to read over.

    Pool School - Recommended Pool Chemicals

    Pool School - Recommended Levels

    I am not up on SWG so I will let someone else talk about that.

    I forgot to talk about the high CC. I would like you to do a OCLT. Here is the link for it.

    Pool School - Perform the Overnight FC Loss Test (OCLT)

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    Re: First Test with TF-100 on a new SWG Pool...Oh Lord, please don't let me muck up..

    Pool School - Recommended Levels

    Straight out of Pool School---recommended levels for you. I have no idea why you'd drain and refill the pool?
    Play with PoolMath to get your levels into these recommended ranges.
    If your SWG is happy-------all is usually good with your salt level.
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    Re: First Test with TF-100 on a new SWG Pool...Oh Lord, please don't let me muck up..

    My Taylor salt test seems to read about 800ppm higher than my SWG from the day it was installed. The SWG is all that matters, but the test can give you trends.
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    Re: First Test with TF-100 on a new SWG Pool...Oh Lord, please don't let me muck up..

    I think something in Pool Math got done wrong. No way you need to add 205 ozs of Baking Soda.
    Recheck what your entry for TA is and what your pH is and calculate that again.

    I concur with jblizzle about the salt. as long as your swg is happy and making chlorine, then thats all that really matters.

    Regarding the CC, sometimes that happens, seemingly out of the blue and for no good reason and is gone the next day. With brand new water, this doesnt really surprise me though.
    Is your water perfectly clear? If not, that can account for it.
    The next step to make sure, is to do a OCLT to rule out anything starting to grow.

    Like Kimkats and others note, you need to get some CYA in the pool.
    &&&&&& - With no CYA, your FC of 5 is the equivelent of approximately 10% above SLAM level which is very high. Let it come down and target 2-3 until you get some CYA in there, then adjust your FC relative to the CYA addition.

    pH is a tad on the high end and could tolerate lowring a bit, but is ok as long as it doesnt go higher.

    Quote Originally Posted by clutchman001 View Post
    Okay, so I got my Kit, did my testing, and here are my numbers
    FC - 5ppm
    CC - 1ppm
    TC - 6ppm
    TA - 70
    CYA - 0

    CL - 5
    pH - 7.8
    With the K-1766 - 4400ppm, this does not correspond with my SWG generated number, which is saying 3400ppm, and I am getting no high salt alarms on the display, are the known to be off by that much, and if so, which number should I go by?

    Do these numbers sound reasonable for a new pool, I trust the kit, just want to make sure I am doing and interpreting them correctly, I am eagerly awaiting everyone's responses and inputs!
    I did do the poolmath, it says to add 21 oz. of MA, 205 oz. of Baking Soda, 905 oz. of CC, 155 oz. of stabilizer, and to drain and refill 23% of the pool.
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    Re: First Test with TF-100 on a new SWG Pool...Oh Lord, please don't let me muck up..

    It might be the SALT that is causing the request to drain and fill water. If they put in 4400 and the target is set to 3400.
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    Re: First Test with TF-100 on a new SWG Pool...Oh Lord, please don't let me muck up..

    I am back, I had to test the pool, shoot off the results, and thenow run to town and have just returned to check the responses. I think I am going to retest water a couple of more times to see that my results are repeatable, and then start making the required adjustments. The water is as clear as a bell, so I just want to be sureleased when I start adding. Good to hear that about the salt test jbizzle, I was holy moly I screwed that up.
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    Re: First Test with TF-100 on a new SWG Pool...Oh Lord, please don't let me muck up..

    Good plan. Let us know what your next set of tests show.

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