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    Father's day Surprise! qwkcoupe - Brian - South of Houston (sub-tropics)

    Hi friends.

    Father's day surprise! Girls dropped off a 20'x'54" Intex Ultra Frame in the back yard with the 12" sand filter combo while we were at boy scout summer camp. Used to have an Easy Set 18'x54" up until 6 years ago when we trashed it after 3 years of clean water that kept leaking at the side-wall through terrible fittings and gaskets. We loved the water after learning how, and upgrading to a bigger pleated filter and pump. This time, with the frame, it looks like ground work is required. I would like to upgrade the filter size and plumbing. Frankly, I would like to spend the next two weeks finalizing equipment upgrades and purchases so that way the equipment stuff will not give me any grief for the next 2-3 years we hope this pool lasts.

    Okay, we are headed over to the "SEARCH" button to research and verify thoughts thus far:

    Ground work research in progress (REQUIRED @ install)
    - positioned about 10 feet adjacent to the patio and swing.
    - leveling by digging out high spots and for mason sand, not bringing in a truck of dirt? (low spots hold water when it rains hard)
    - build upward with 2" mason sand (not using foam here in the sub-tropics
    - gorilla pad or commercial landscape cloth I believe with mason sand
    - Post uprights need paver bases flush to bottom
    - note, would be really cool to bury it halfway if possible somehow.

    Re-learning the start up chemical process (REQUIRED @ install):
    - raising CYA levels up to 50'ish
    - liquid chlorine bleaching (1x week, plus swimmer load dosing). Year round. (South of Houston, SUB-TROPICS!!!)
    - slowly post-install reducing city water alkalinity from 400ppm to <100ppm (cycles of muratic acid, aeration, borax)
    - good test kit

    Filter pump upgrade research (OPTIONAL):
    - 2 speed pump vs stock Intex pump
    - Larger sand filter vs Stock Intex sand filter (No tree problems, but don't want to backwash the pool dry)
    - quality filter sand, add a little DE to it; vs. stock Intex
    - Brand names, Models
    - Sizing pump and filter

    Plumbing upgrade research (OPTIONAL):
    - 2" PVS, soft and hard pipe
    - valves, and a few quick connects (sub-tropics here in Houston)
    - remote placed pump/filter (long pipe vs long wire runs)
    - dual skimmer and returns maybe (20' is borderline dual)
    - sidewall skimmer(s)
    - Aerator (i.e. cooling, and alkalinity control)

    Vacuum
    - i.e. functions as a pseudo main drain while sweeping.

    Etc. help
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    12" 2100 Gal Sand Filter Pump
    Item # 28645EG

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    Re: Father's day Surprise! qwkcoupe - Brian - South of Houston (sub-tropics)

    Now it would be a GREAT present IF they also paid someone to dig and level the spot! LOL You and I both know THAT is the hardest!

    Do a search on here about leveling. There a many good posts about water levels and such.

    You are right------dig high spots down, do NOT fill low spots up.

    Knowing about good test kits already! SWEET!

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    Re: Father's day Surprise! qwkcoupe - Brian - South of Houston (sub-tropics)

    Welcome to TFP! There are several discussions about leveling in the Above Ground Pools forum. Bound to be some good suggestions there.
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    Re: Father's day Surprise! qwkcoupe - Brian - South of Houston (sub-tropics)

    Thank you friends for the warm welcome.

    Skipped leveling dirt with it <2" of level. I'd love it to be level..... "WHEN DADDY???"! We built a 'bunyip' water hose level (SEE PICTURE). The kids plotted out the yard on graph paper. Definitely right at <2" level, and that is within about 2 feet of each side (I know, I should have leveled the such small area!).

    I forgot start up shock levels ... Turned GREEN in 6 hours flat! Took 3 days to clear. 2 more days to bring down the CC. All clear now for 2 days.

    25 Lbs of Zeosand went into the tiny 12" sand filter. Surprisingly 50% of the 50 LB regular pool sand rating is doing a great job (and that is with highly restrictive suction/return.) I might add 10-15 LBS just for fun. Definitively not convinced to up-size the filter as long as we stay ahead of the water.

    Burning Eyeballs fixed:

    'Solar' Salt. 200 Lbs = 2,000 PPM guess. "The water is soft"
    7.3 PH moved up to 7.6
    1 extra day of Shock Level just in case. (I just now learned how to test CC)
    Sunscreen in the water, possibly.

    Next up .....

    Shade, vacuum, skimmer.20150628_101309.jpg20150703_170030.jpg
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    AG Intex 8,600 gallon, 1/2 HP pump, 12" sand filter w/ 25lbs Neosand. FC 3-7 bleach. 41 CYA. 2,800 salt. 120 TA. 6 Borate.

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    Re: Father's day Surprise! qwkcoupe - Brian - South of Houston (sub-tropics)

    No pics I was hoping for pics!

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    Re: Father's day Surprise! qwkcoupe - Brian - South of Houston (sub-tropics)

    Fixed that! Thanks for checking in. I am just skimming by drinking from the return jet all the great support here. TFP all the way!
    AG Intex 8,600 gallon, 1/2 HP pump, 12" sand filter w/ 25lbs Neosand. FC 3-7 bleach. 41 CYA. 2,800 salt. 120 TA. 6 Borate.

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    Re: Father's day Surprise! qwkcoupe - Brian - South of Houston (sub-tropics)

    You did it! I love those those levels! I am glad the kids helped. They learn so much that way.

    That shade is awesome. How it is holding up to the rain and wind?

    "Thanks DAD! We love YOUR present from us!" LOL

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    Re: Father's day Surprise! qwkcoupe - Brian - South of Houston (sub-tropics)

    Kim, the shade is holding up well so far... But, it is very temporary. I am looking at installing a decent DIY 'sail shade' based on setting steel poles into concrete to secure steel cables, and possibly using a used sail boat sail. Right now i am debating buying an Intex SWCG for 15,000 galloms from Walmart for $99. (And a TF kit, a skimmer, vac and pvc).

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    Re: Father's day Surprise! qwkcoupe - Brian - South of Houston (sub-tropics)

    LOL it is almost never ending!

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    Re: Father's day Surprise! qwkcoupe - Brian - South of Houston (sub-tropics)

    Rusted fast! Contemplating restoring the grass or buying new metal and rustproofing them inside and out with epoxy or powder coating.

    My wife wants a hot tub for mom and dad only.

    I do like the salt water chemistry process which is fantastic!
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    AG Intex 8,600 gallon, 1/2 HP pump, 12" sand filter w/ 25lbs Neosand. FC 3-7 bleach. 41 CYA. 2,800 salt. 120 TA. 6 Borate.

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    Re: Father's day Surprise! qwkcoupe - Brian - South of Houston (sub-tropics)

    Quote Originally Posted by qwkcoupe View Post
    My wife wants a hot tub for mom and dad only.
    Your wife is a very smart lady, I suggest you do as she requests.
    30,600 gallons of central CA well water housed in a fiberglass coated concrete/plaster pool, dug into the most productive top soil on earth
    and surrounded by an urban forest. Cleaned with a Pentair 48 sq ft DE filter and Pentair Rebel suction side pool cleaner with large inline leaf canister.
    Water tested by yours truly with a Taylor K-2006. New Old House, New Old Pool....

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