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    Very disappointed in Jacks purple stuff

    Did a AA Treatment the stains disappeared n looked great til I rebalance the pool. Poured in the required amount of Jacks ( follow up doses every week) and the stains came right back.

    I purchased some CuLator on Amazon,I should get it any day now. So how that goes.....
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    Re: Very disappointed in Jacks purple stuff

    Increase your dose and control your ph -- eg. keep it closer to 7.2ish.

    Even the sequestrant cannot control it if your metal level is high and your ph rises a lot.

    Also, if you want to try it, you could try Metal Magic and do this SPONGE TEST to see if it will also remove the stain -- it works for me but YMMV: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...96042044,d.b2w
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    Re: Very disappointed in Jacks purple stuff

    Quote Originally Posted by ethany View Post
    I purchased some CuLator on Amazon,I should get it any day now. So how that goes.....
    If you have ANY issues with the CuLator, be sure to contact the company. Sometimes special procedures are needed and they will walk you through that.
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    Re: Very disappointed in Jacks purple stuff

    Actually my ph is stable. I keep it at 7.2-7.3 I added borates last year n maintain them so my water is relatively stable. TA never gets below 80-90.

    My FC is maintained now at 5 ppm. With a SWG running 12 hrs a day (pump) on low speed.

    I really can't afford to keep putting in a ton of Jacks. After I did a successful AA treatment I threw in a Qt. of jacks send then 16 oz. every week in 20k/ gallon pool.

    I agree it's prob not enough. It's frustrating because I know the metals will always be there, in water or on walls. Like an ever ending battle, expensive one.

    Is Metal Magic a sequestering agent like Jacks? I think CuLator claims it can remove iron out of the water. Not sure if that's a dud too.
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    Re: Very disappointed in Jacks purple stuff

    I used to use Jacks. Too expensive. Go to Walmart and buy the HTH metal stuff. It's a phosphonic acid based chelator like jacks. Last I bought was about $8 a quart. It works just as good, at least for me.
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    Re: Very disappointed in Jacks purple stuff

    U know I saw that at Walmart and wondered how it was. I'll give it a shot. Will I have to do an AA treatment again to remove stains? That was a process that took a while to rebalance.
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    Re: Very disappointed in Jacks purple stuff

    Ethan's, Metal Magic is the same type as jacks. If you look at that sponge test I posted a link for, you will see in higher doses there's a way to test to see if it will also remove stains.
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    Re: Very disappointed in Jacks purple stuff

    Quote Originally Posted by bk406 View Post
    I used to use Jacks. Too expensive. Go to Walmart and buy the HTH metal stuff. It's a phosphonic acid based chelator like jacks. Last I bought was about $8 a quart. It works just as good, at least for me.
    Went up in price to $12.86 but still better than paying $25
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    Re: Very disappointed in Jacks purple stuff

    I haven't bought any HTH brand for awhile. I found a cheaper brand at Ocean State Job Lot. I suggested the Walmart brand since Ocean State Job Lot is basically a New England store.
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