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Thread: Wanting to replace cantilevered concrete, will we have to replace tile?

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    Wanting to replace cantilevered concrete, will we have to replace tile?

    We have a pool which we believe was built in 2010 (we did not actually build it, but we are guessing the date from the permits and other paperwork we have found). It is gunite with (probably knockoff) pebble tec finish, porcelain pool tile, cantilevered concrete decking, and a built-in spa with a spillovers. We have recently done a large backyard reno (1,500 square feet of pavers, pavilion, outdoor movie theater, and outdoor kitchen, freestanding hot tub, and we are about to add a fireplace, brick oven and a either more pavers or a composite deck around the fireplace/oven area).

    In the fall, we would really like to replace the concrete with pavers and coping (unsure which type we want since it is a saltwater pool which seems to be a little hard on everything) as well as renovating the built-in spa (The spa has two spillovers that they annoyingly placed on the very edges next to the decking which means they constantly pour water over the decking. As a result, there is constant salt residue on the decking, wasted water, additional wear, and minor cracking of the concrete deck in the area).

    The tile is in really good shape, and we hate to replace it. We recognize that we may need to replace the tile in the spa if we move the spillovers to be one central spillover that does not leak everywhere. Would taking out cantilevered concrete generally require replacing the pool tile? (Since the concrete is generally ok, we might put off replacing the concrete a little longer if the tile must be replaced. We have spent a lot of money, and have put in a lot of DIY time on the other renos, you know.)

    Thanks in advance for any responses!
    Inground pool, gunite, 31,000-ish gallons, pebbletec finish, generally Hayward equipment (heater, filter, salt generation, stupid automation panel, etc.), but a Pentair whisper flo pump (because to be honest, I hated the Hayward one). I am not a pool person, and have never been in, nor intend to get in our pool. However, my husband likes the pool, and I am fond of him.

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    Re: Wanting to replace cantilevered concrete, will we have to replace tile?

    Not sure I understand the question.....can you be more specific?
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    Re: Wanting to replace cantilevered concrete, will we have to replace tile?

    is your concrete cantilever continuous to the pool deck? Which mean there is no separation from the concrete coping to the concrete decking. If so, then you should be ok in removing the concrete, because there is a spacer (felt) fabric underneath the concrete coping to separate the coping/decking from the pool shell.

    If there is a separation between the concrete coping and the rest of the decking, then more than likely, there is no spacer underneath the concrete coping, then the concrete probably stuck to the pool shell and also the waterline tiles...... Then when you remove the concrete, some tiles will be damaged and need replaced.... Pending on the skills of your concrete crew.

    We had to have the pour in place cantilever coping removed during our build and some tiles where damaged.... But the tile crews was great and replacing the damage tiles pretty easily...

    Hopefully this helps.

    72' X 10' IG pool with infinity edge spa and in pool dry deck completed Nov 2014. Pentair 3 HP VS pump for pool and spa. Pentair Challenger 3 HP for three 3 feet sheer decent water features. Pentair MasterTemp Heater and QUAD D.E. Filter.

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    Re: Wanting to replace cantilevered concrete, will we have to replace tile?

    Quote Originally Posted by cchopkins View Post
    is your concrete cantilever continuous to the pool deck? Which mean there is no separation from the concrete coping to the concrete decking. If so, then you should be ok in removing the concrete, because there is a spacer (felt) fabric underneath the concrete coping to separate the coping/decking from the pool shell.

    If there is a separation between the concrete coping and the rest of the decking, then more than likely, there is no spacer underneath the concrete coping, then the concrete probably stuck to the pool shell and also the waterline tiles...... Then when you remove the concrete, some tiles will be damaged and need replaced.... Pending on the skills of your concrete crew.

    We had to have the pour in place cantilever coping removed during our build and some tiles where damaged.... But the tile crews was great and replacing the damage tiles pretty easily...

    Hopefully this helps.

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    Thanks for for your answer! There is no separate coping. The concrete is continuous from the edge of the pool all the way to the edge of the coping. This gives me hope.
    Inground pool, gunite, 31,000-ish gallons, pebbletec finish, generally Hayward equipment (heater, filter, salt generation, stupid automation panel, etc.), but a Pentair whisper flo pump (because to be honest, I hated the Hayward one). I am not a pool person, and have never been in, nor intend to get in our pool. However, my husband likes the pool, and I am fond of him.

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