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    Add Borax = extremely cloudy water

    Hey,

    I've seen a few threads here from people adding Borax and getting cloudy water. The general consensus seems to be that Borax should not cloud the water. But my experience seems contrary to that.

    Yesterday my pool was crystal clear. Like show off clear
    All numbers were ok but ph was on the low side. about 7.2. So about 5pm I got 4 boxes of Borax.
    I want to get the borates up anyway... So threw the 4 boxes into the pool in front of the deep end return. I watched the evil Borax cloud grow and spread. And next thing I knew, the entire pool was extremely cloudy. Cant see the bottom cloudy. I figured I would let it run for a while and it would clear. 14 hours later the pool is just as, if not more cloudy. I just took a set of numbers right now. They are:

    FC - 8
    CC - 0
    PH - 7.6
    CYA - 30-35
    CH - 300
    TA- 100

    I am fighting the good fight against metal staining. Using over 1 bottle of metal magic a week to keep the stains away. Im wondering if the jump in PH might have caused the staining to start? A lot of times the staining isnt just in the liner. It makes the water look cloudy and almost tinny. But before I go buying $50 worth of Ascorbic, I want to be sure

    Any suggestions? Thanks a lot in advance.
    18x38 Inground Liner (25k gal) Paver surround, multi-speed pump, DE Filter, Raised spill over spa, TF-100

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    Re: Add Borax = extremely cloudy water

    I see you also used Metal Magic. Are you on well water?
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    Re: Add Borax = extremely cloudy water

    Have you put anything else in your water other than liquid chlorine and the Metal Magic?
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    Re: Add Borax = extremely cloudy water

    No, we do not have well water.
    18x38 Inground Liner (25k gal) Paver surround, multi-speed pump, DE Filter, Raised spill over spa, TF-100

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    Re: Add Borax = extremely cloudy water

    I see. Can you provide some background as to who recommended the use of the Metal Magic? I don't see it on this thread if it was somewhere here at TFP. Just trying to put the whole picture together here.
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    Re: Add Borax = extremely cloudy water

    Thanks Texas Splash. I don't really understand the question. I appreciate your responses, but I feel this is moving in a direction away from the issue that I am having and its very important for me to get some info on what might be going on.

    Thanks a lot.
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    Re: Add Borax = extremely cloudy water

    I found one of your previous threads from last year. metal magic + 0 chlorine = cloudy water
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    Re: Add Borax = extremely cloudy water

    The thread from last year was a significantly different issue.
    I almost feel now that you are hijacking this. Again, I appreciate the responses but please allow others with some experience in this to answer.
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    Re: Add Borax = extremely cloudy water

    You have relatively good test numbers (above). And you['re right, typically Borax should not cloud the water. You're not on well water, so I can only assume your city water has some metal(s) in it based on your history of this staining issue. Have you contacted your water company and/or had the water tested specifically for metal content already? I didn't see a previous thread on that. Knowing which type of metal may be in your water could be key.

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    Re: Add Borax = extremely cloudy water

    I have added 20 Mule Team Borax to my pool at least 4 times (for the same reason) and never experienced ANY cloudiness nor can I remember any other specific posts of that happening.

    I think Texas Splash is trying to find something unique in your pool since you seem to be having a unique experience.
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    Re: Add Borax = extremely cloudy water

    Thanks Duraleigh. When I searched for "borax cloudy" on the site I came up with a few posts. And then google showed a bunch. But either way, I think Ill wait another 24 hours and see if it clears. If not maybe hit it with ascorbic. Maybe the ph jump freed the metal from the Sequestrant.

    Appreciate both of your help!!!
    18x38 Inground Liner (25k gal) Paver surround, multi-speed pump, DE Filter, Raised spill over spa, TF-100

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