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    New pool remodel - Need advice on chemicals question

    Question: My pool was just remodeled. It was completely filled up Thursday and Miuratic acid and Metal out was put in only. I get home Thursday night to a pretty blue pool. However, my sand filter was full of algae I know it. Haven't had a chance to deep clean it prior to pool being remodeled.The basket had algae in it so i scrubbed that down. I began scrubbing the pool and noticed alot of dust and matter. The pool also had the smell of a lake to it..

    The pool builder told me they will put chemicals in Monday. He said they must give the pool time to let the metal be removed from the water... 4 days? Seems excessive to me for just metals. I have never used metal out personally, just haven't had the need to. I wanted to know what you guys think.

    I have a TFT kit and am ready to attack this sucker, I have a pool party saturday that was loosely planned, I would like my pool not to smell like a pond. I plan to cancel it or at least let people know it isn't really ready and smells like a lake.. lol.

    Just wondering if it would be okay if I apply chemicals today, I am over 24 hours into the metal out being applied. Pump has ran over 24 hours. The company will be doing initial chemicals for free with the remodel Monday, but I don't really care, I'd rather my pool not smell like a lake.

    What do you guys think? Thanks in advance.

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    Re: New pool remodel - Need advice on chemicals question

    Metal out? Are you on well water? Or does the city have a known issue with metals already? Just curious.

    You've got the kit - awesome! I would not wait to get your stabilizer and Free Chlorine (FC) in there. Of course make sure you review the new plaster link: Pool School - Start-up New Plaster

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    Re: New pool remodel - Need advice on chemicals question

    Thanks Texas. I am assuming the city water must be high in metals... I don't believe my kit can test for that though. Could my local pool store tell me if it has metals present? I'll post my #'s tonight. Unfortunately didn't get to it last night and I also need some reagents as I haven't really tested my water in months waiting for this remodel.
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    Re: New pool remodel - Need advice on chemicals question

    A metal test is one of those tests you probably "can" have the pool store do. Just ignore everything else they say. But I don't think that should hinder you from adding stabilizer and/or bleach (FC) right now. Last thing you want is a full-blown algae bloom over the weekend. Stay in touch, have a nice weekend.
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    Re: New pool remodel - Need advice on chemicals question

    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Splash View Post
    A metal test is one of those tests you probably "can" have the pool store do. Just ignore everything else they say. But I don't think that should hinder you from adding stabilizer and/or bleach (FC) right now. Last thing you want is a full-blown algae bloom over the weekend. Stay in touch, have a nice weekend.
    Yeah I never listen to the pool store lol. My local store knows I don't BS they dont try to sell me anything other than the basics that I always get haha. Pretty decent local store here. I just texted the builder and told him im putting in CYA and chlorine tonight unless they want to. I heard their pool maintenance sucks but their remodels are great. I can't really comment on that but I really don't like the fact they were going to let my pool sit for 4 days before putting any chlorine in, geez.
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    Re: New pool remodel - Need advice on chemicals question

    Be careful that what you do does not mess up your warranty with the PB. Do what HE says to keep it intact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimkats View Post
    Be careful that what you do does not mess up your warranty with the PB. Do what HE says to keep it intact.

    Kim (I have to agree about not liking no FC for 4 days but...............)
    I'm going to talk to the owner about it today and see what he says. Their customer service has been bad through this whole process I don't hear back for 2 days and it's mostly very short or "oh i forgot to check on that". I haven't paid them the remaining balance yet so I have some leverage

    After reading the pool school for new plaster, it says do not add chlorine until plaster dust is gone. There was a good amount coming up when scrubbing it this AM. I also have a sand filter so I'd assume that takes a little longer to pick up the plaster granules.
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    Re: New pool remodel - Need advice on chemicals question

    Kim mentions a very good point. Please refer to this article: Pool School - Start-up New Plaster

    It does address a couple items specifically related to what you were asking (i.e. how/when Chlorine/CYA may be added). Good catch!
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    Re: New pool remodel - Need advice on chemicals question

    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Splash View Post
    Kim mentions a very good point. Please refer to this article: Pool School - Start-up New Plaster

    It does address a couple items specifically related to what you were asking (i.e. how/when Chlorine/CYA may be added). Good catch!
    Well the pool managed to stay clear this weekend. I scrubbed twice a day to make sure that the plaster dust would get ate up by the acid. Chemicals are going in as we speak.
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    Re: New pool remodel - Need advice on chemicals question

    SWEET! I am glad it worked out!

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    Re: New pool remodel - Need advice on chemicals question

    Just an update. Chemicals are officialy my job now. I accidentally bought OTO chlorine testing kit. That sucked. I was in a hurry as the pool store was closing in 5 mins and they were kind of rushing me. I may take it back. Anyways... Pool is holding chlorine and doing well according to my OTO test.

    I can't find my CYA cylinder to do a CYA test... kinda stinks I don't know what I did with it. I am thinking of making a custom one but I figure there is some science behind those cylinders im not aware of and I won't get accurate readings. I have tons of CYA reagent too.
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    I tihnk you can buy one for a few bucks at tftestkits.net
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    Re: New pool remodel - Need advice on chemicals question

    Quote Originally Posted by pooldv View Post
    I tihnk you can buy one for a few bucks at tftestkits.net
    I see that now, thanks!
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