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    Fine Tuning...

    Good evening pool lovers! I have a question about fine tuning and what if anything am I missing out on...

    My numbers have been pretty consistent each evening (pre-evening treatment):

    ph 7.5
    fc 4-5
    cc .5
    CH-275-300
    ta 90-100
    cya 42

    my question is about ph and ta... I have my aerator on when my pump is on...and I can't seem to get the ph up past 7.5 and my ta also seem to come it at 90-100...

    My water is bright crystal clear, so I am blessed right now about that, but am I missing out on some efficiencies with my ph and ta being a little off? Just curious how hard I need to work on those...

    I truly don't know the effects of each, so I am admitting my ignorance...
    ~16,500g, in ground gunite pool, Hayward pro series sand filter, Emerson pumps, TF 100 XL test kit, Speed Stir, Polaris 280 pool sweep (I believe that is the model)

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    Re: Fine Tuning...

    Nope, no loss of efficiencies. If anything, the fact that your pH holds stable means you don't have to buy acid.
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    Re: Fine Tuning...

    Great, thanks Richard!
    ~16,500g, in ground gunite pool, Hayward pro series sand filter, Emerson pumps, TF 100 XL test kit, Speed Stir, Polaris 280 pool sweep (I believe that is the model)

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    Re: Fine Tuning...

    Your PH and numbers are obviously in harmony. Enjoy.
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    Re: Fine Tuning...

    Your numbers look like sweet music to our ears. Nice to see that, and you are in-tune with your pool. Nice work.
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    Re: Fine Tuning...

    Thanks! I am new to all this so wasn't sure what implications ph was from 7.5 to my target 7.8... Or 90-100 from my target 80 ta... I wasn't sure if one had an impact on eye irritation, dryer skin, etc.

    all is good, thanks for the reassurance guys!
    ~16,500g, in ground gunite pool, Hayward pro series sand filter, Emerson pumps, TF 100 XL test kit, Speed Stir, Polaris 280 pool sweep (I believe that is the model)

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    Re: Fine Tuning...

    After some point you'll have your pool down to a science. You'll know what the free chlorine and ph readings are going to be before you even do the test! I keep a journal of my results, including any weather events, bather load, or anything out of the ordinary. When I first received my test kit, it took a whole page of notebook paper for me to decipher the results. Now a month goes on two sheets, front and back.
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    Re: Fine Tuning...

    You're welcome! Of course there are always exceptions depending on the situation (i.e one chemical balance waaaaay off), but personally I tend to focus on making sure PH is always in my window first, and can let the TA float a little but more around it's window as needed as long as they are working well together. This topic can get really deep, but here's a good discussion on that topic: what does High/Low Ph do to your skin?

    So some folks who just had new plaster done, or have lots of aeration or swimming activity might have other specific challenges, but generally speaking, if our PH stays close to our recommended level window, our skin and eyes should be fine.
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    Re: Fine Tuning...

    Very cool, thanks again! And thanks for the additional info!
    ~16,500g, in ground gunite pool, Hayward pro series sand filter, Emerson pumps, TF 100 XL test kit, Speed Stir, Polaris 280 pool sweep (I believe that is the model)

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