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    Polaris 360 hoses keep springing leaks every few months

    I've been a pool owner for almost 3 years. First year I don't recall having any issues with the hose of the 360. The past 2 years I seem to have at least one section of hose spring a leak every 2-3 months and its costing me a fortunate. Any tips/ideas on what the issue might be? I thought about slighting turning down the water flow into the Polaris thinking too much water/pressure was coming through?

    Not sure if its related, but timing would be right - warranty company replaced the motor and I know the new one has a bit higher HP.

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    Re: Polaris 360 hoses keep springing leaks every few months

    Which hose do you have, the corrugated white hose or the smaller clear hose?

    I think you are on the right track with the excess water pressure. Only way to know for sure is to jump in the pool with the 360, put a mark on the single wheel side rim (I used a pencil). Then count wheel revolutions for one minute. I had my wife help me with this, she kept the timer while I was in the pool holding the cleaner. You should get 28 - 32 RPMs in one minute.

    Anything over 32, and you are feeding too much water to the 360. If this is the case, you can change out the pressure relief/bypass valve at the wall fitting. I had to do this earlier this year after I rebuilt my 360. I have a 2 HP pump and had 40 RPMs. I changed out the white pressure relief valve with a blue one, which brought the RPM down the 32. You can fine tune the relief valve too by partially unscrewing it. I believe there are 4 different relief/bypass valves.
    J.R.

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    Re: Polaris 360 hoses keep springing leaks every few months

    Quote Originally Posted by jrs_diesel View Post
    Which hose do you have, the corrugated white hose or the smaller clear hose?

    I think you are on the right track with the excess water pressure. Only way to know for sure is to jump in the pool with the 360, put a mark on the single wheel side rim (I used a pencil). Then count wheel revolutions for one minute. I had my wife help me with this, she kept the timer while I was in the pool holding the cleaner. You should get 28 - 32 RPMs in one minute.

    Anything over 32, and you are feeding too much water to the 360. If this is the case, you can change out the pressure relief/bypass valve at the wall fitting. I had to do this earlier this year after I rebuilt my 360. I have a 2 HP pump and had 40 RPMs. I changed out the white pressure relief valve with a blue one, which brought the RPM down the 32. You can fine tune the relief valve too by partially unscrewing it. I believe there are 4 different relief/bypass valves.


    Thanks I'll give that a try - I have the corrugated white hose - didn't realize there were other options, might have to look into that clear one - is it any better/cheaper?

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    Re: Polaris 360 hoses keep springing leaks every few months

    I don't think it's any better, just different. Changing from one to the other would involve a new wall fitting, new hose, swivel connectors and floats, and a new fitting on the 360. They are different materials, the white corrugated one is PVC plastic, and the smaller hose is clear rubber tubing (similar to the tail sweep hose, just bigger).

    I have the white corrugated hose and don't have much issue with it. I did spring a leak last year, but that was mainly my fault. I kinked the hose accidently while it was running and caused it to split. That happened near the wall fitting so I cut a few inches off and reconnected it. Other that that I've replaced 2 old swivel connectors that fell apart.

    My 360 is likely as old as the pool itself, which was built around 1992. It got it's first rebuild earlier this year. I'm sure the hose is the same age too. Both have held up remarkably well over time.

    They do not like to be driven hard, which is why Polaris has the wheel RPM test. The 360 is the only cleaner in their lineup that does not require it's own boost pump, it runs off of the main pump. Because of the wide variety and power of pumps, they have the different relief/bypass valves for the wall fitting to get the proper flow to the cleaner.
    J.R.

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    Re: Polaris 360 hoses keep springing leaks every few months

    Quote Originally Posted by jrs_diesel View Post
    I don't think it's any better, just different. Changing from one to the other would involve a new wall fitting, new hose, swivel connectors and floats, and a new fitting on the 360. They are different materials, the white corrugated one is PVC plastic, and the smaller hose is clear rubber tubing (similar to the tail sweep hose, just bigger).

    I have the white corrugated hose and don't have much issue with it. I did spring a leak last year, but that was mainly my fault. I kinked the hose accidently while it was running and caused it to split. That happened near the wall fitting so I cut a few inches off and reconnected it. Other that that I've replaced 2 old swivel connectors that fell apart.

    My 360 is likely as old as the pool itself, which was built around 1992. It got it's first rebuild earlier this year. I'm sure the hose is the same age too. Both have held up remarkably well over time.

    They do not like to be driven hard, which is why Polaris has the wheel RPM test. The 360 is the only cleaner in their lineup that does not require it's own boost pump, it runs off of the main pump. Because of the wide variety and power of pumps, they have the different relief/bypass valves for the wall fitting to get the proper flow to the cleaner.
    Thanks for the info - I glanced at Amazon - would I need a new relief valve & wall fitting or just relief valve? I feel like its getter harder and harder to remove at the wall so I may just buy all new parts

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    Re: Polaris 360 hoses keep springing leaks every few months

    Just the relief valve. They come in different colors to indicate the strength of the spring inside it. The white one has a very strong spring, which means that a lot of water will go to the 360 and little out the relief valve. The blue one has a softer spring and will bypass more water away from the 360. There is a red one, but I have no idea how strong the spring is inside it. The relief valve just screws into the side of the wall fitting. I changed the white one I was originally using to a blue one and my wheel RPM went from 40 or so to 32.

    Had you measured the wheel RPM yet?
    J.R.

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    Re: Polaris 360 hoses keep springing leaks every few months

    Quote Originally Posted by jrs_diesel View Post
    Just the relief valve. They come in different colors to indicate the strength of the spring inside it. The white one has a very strong spring, which means that a lot of water will go to the 360 and little out the relief valve. The blue one has a softer spring and will bypass more water away from the 360. There is a red one, but I have no idea how strong the spring is inside it. The relief valve just screws into the side of the wall fitting. I changed the white one I was originally using to a blue one and my wheel RPM went from 40 or so to 32.

    Had you measured the wheel RPM yet?
    Tested the RPMs - came back at 29 - back to the drawing board....

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    Re: Polaris 360 hoses keep springing leaks every few months

    Right on the money there with those RPMs.

    How old is the hose, and is it Polaris hose?
    J.R.

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    Re: Polaris 360 hoses keep springing leaks every few months

    Sorry for the delay - the hose is the original Polaris hose and is ~4 yrs old

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    Re: Polaris 360 hoses keep springing leaks every few months

    Not sure why it would be splitting then, with good flow and low age on the hose. Wonder if it may have been a bad batch of hose during that production run?
    J.R.

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    Re: Polaris 360 hoses keep springing leaks every few months

    Is it leaking at the fittings? I found my hose to be loose at the fittings when I first got it...
    17.4k gallon IG pool with attached spa (spa itself is 730gal), Super Blue Diamondbrite plaster, Circupool SI-45+ SWG, BH/Hayward Cartridge Filter, 2hp 2speed Hayward Super II pump, , Jandy Valves, Waterway Skimmers, Rheem 400k Heater, Polaris 360 cleaner, built 2000+-, replastered June 2015, TF-100 kit---Here's my pool test reading history

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