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    in the design and bid stage

    Hi all, just getting started and the process has many considerations. What we have so far is design

    Lap Style in ground with room for grandkids 46' L x 10' W from 4-6' deep and 2 Baja steps 2' each 8" and 12" and 2 steps to side of Baja steps giving me 42' of lap swim with 2 Sheer decents and out of pool spa 8x6'

    Salt Water - 400 BTU Gas Heater - LED Lighting - Variable Speed Pump (not sure of size) - 3/4HP pump for water decents and Booster Pump for High Volume Spa _ Automated Cover - Automated systems
    Not sure of Finish yet but leaning to good ol fashioned plaster as younger ones need smooth surface I feel.


    Have met with 3 builders 2 referred and 1 from reputation.


    Revisions in process and awaiting bids

    I need to do my homework on "shot crete" , equiptment brands etc,etc which I am sure will be found here on this site and then I see these great looking fiberglass pools and now really going in circles

    Keep you posted from here on to finish!

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    Re: in the design and bid stage

    My only advice is if you want a lap pool get every foot of lap length you can, this may mean moving the baja steps to a corner, etc. 42 ft may seem like a lot, but you will be surprised how short it is, particularly if you are accustomed to swimming laps in a large pool.

    Ike

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    Re: in the design and bid stage

    Sounds like fun! The more bids the better. And I'd give them some rope because you might find some things you like on the different builds. It won't give you apples to apples on price, but you should get an idea while learning of different equipment options and other things.

    Once you settle in on a person or 2, you can then have them price the exact same stuff and/or come here to bounce the build off of people.

    All the best!

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    And I second everything Ike just said!
    New DIY IG pool in Houston, Texas. 4/30 dig to 6/11 fill. 20' x 42.5' free form pool/raised spa with the following equipment: 3hp Intelliflow pump shared between pool/spa, 120gpm Pentair Waterfall pump, 6' sheer decent, 2 bubblers, 2 large color LEDs in the pool/1 small in the spa, Easytouch 8 with ScreenLogic2, Stenner Pump, auto fill, a 2HP silencer pump for the spa, 850 sq. ft Sundeck, Dolphin Supreme M500 and a TF100+mixer

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    Re: in the design and bid stage

    You're in SD- message me, we just finished our huge pool with two 50' lap lanes. It's also our 3rd pool so have talked to lots of PBs in SD!
    May 2015 completed- 50'x30' beach entry(26'), two 50' swim lanes, diving board, jump rock, 4'-9.5' depth, 40K+gal salt water, Pentair,Screen logic 2 mobile for intellitouch., intellichlor and intellichem automated system. Jacuzzi JLX cuz we rarely used the last in ground spa :)

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    Re: in the design and bid stage

    thanks all and all recommendations into consideration. Do most buy their equipment seperatly instead of a whole package from PB. First bid in at $98,000 with spa in pool and pebble finish. Only budgeted for $60,000, ouch

    Salt Water - 400,000 BTU Gas Heater - LED Lighting - Variable Speed Pump (not sure of size) - 3/4HP pump for water decents and Booster Pump for High Volume Spa _ Automated Cover - Automated systems
    Not sure of Finish yet but leaning to good ol fashioned plaster as younger ones need smooth surface I feel.

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    Re: in the design and bid stage


    Revision has spa coming out of pool and going into hammock corner elevated 2 feet
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    In design and proposal stage: 46'x10' - 2ea 2'x10' 8" & 12" deep Baja Steps - 4-7' Deep - 2 Sheer Descents - 15,000 gallon in ground - Automatic Cover (under coping)- SWG - 400,000BTU NG Heater - Unknown size/brand pump(s), filter, LED, cleaner type and pool finish

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    Re: in the design and bid stage

    That seems like a lot of money, but I see what looks like an outdoor kitchen, a fire pit, a slide and lots of tile on the floors. That can add a lot of $$$. The pool alone seems like $55-60k with a PB. I'd get a number of itemized quotes and reach out to people like macdee for help on recommendations. I found there are a lot of PB's that quote top dollar, but there are a few that are good and work off of volume.
    New DIY IG pool in Houston, Texas. 4/30 dig to 6/11 fill. 20' x 42.5' free form pool/raised spa with the following equipment: 3hp Intelliflow pump shared between pool/spa, 120gpm Pentair Waterfall pump, 6' sheer decent, 2 bubblers, 2 large color LEDs in the pool/1 small in the spa, Easytouch 8 with ScreenLogic2, Stenner Pump, auto fill, a 2HP silencer pump for the spa, 850 sq. ft Sundeck, Dolphin Supreme M500 and a TF100+mixer

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    Re: in the design and bid stage

    Thanks TW, quote was for pool and in pool spa build equipment and coping only does not include bondbeam finish. Requesting itemized bid with brand, size etc of all equipment. Hope to have 2nd bid this week.

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    Re: in the design and bid stage

    Any decisions yet?
    May 2015 completed- 50'x30' beach entry(26'), two 50' swim lanes, diving board, jump rock, 4'-9.5' depth, 40K+gal salt water, Pentair,Screen logic 2 mobile for intellitouch., intellichlor and intellichem automated system. Jacuzzi JLX cuz we rarely used the last in ground spa :)

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    Re: in the design and bid stage

    We are inching are way forward, yesterdays meeting with PB who submitted first proposal was beneficial. We went over a few changes, stone & tile selections, equipment brands and agreement language. I just finished what I'll call a clarification email asking for entire verbal in writing including a detailed equipment list.

    As for the finish we seem to like the feel of plaster.

    His price came down $20,000 from first meeting that had electric heater and mini pebble as finish, a few other oversights and corrections from this PB

    Should be meeting with your builder next Weds, how many visits and revisions, clarifications did you have, just curious. After reading on forum I want to be sure all is in writing and know exactly what we are getting.

    Take care, sunny skies ahead. GT
    In design and proposal stage: 46'x10' - 2ea 2'x10' 8" & 12" deep Baja Steps - 4-7' Deep - 2 Sheer Descents - 15,000 gallon in ground - Automatic Cover (under coping)- SWG - 400,000BTU NG Heater - Unknown size/brand pump(s), filter, LED, cleaner type and pool finish

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    Re: in the design and bid stage

    I think you are doing it right! Talk and write it all out!

    One person made sure to even write down the model numbers and it paid off when the PB dropped off a much lower level set of equipment. Since the owner had all of the model numbers written down in the contract he got what he order and paid for!

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    Re: in the design and bid stage

    Yep, I want to avoid all that, see what this site has created, an informed buyer!
    In design and proposal stage: 46'x10' - 2ea 2'x10' 8" & 12" deep Baja Steps - 4-7' Deep - 2 Sheer Descents - 15,000 gallon in ground - Automatic Cover (under coping)- SWG - 400,000BTU NG Heater - Unknown size/brand pump(s), filter, LED, cleaner type and pool finish

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