Become a TFP Supporter Pool Math Forum Rules Pool School
Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: newbie chlorine ?

  1. Back To Top    #1

    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Location
    Falmouth, ME
    Posts
    6

    newbie chlorine ?

    We have a 36,000 gallon, in-ground pool with liner. I stumbled across this website and am intrigued to forgo "pool company chemicals" and embrace the DIY approach you guys practice....so suffice it to say I am a NEWBIE. I just discovered the 'pool chemical calculator' and the uber-techy test kit forums but am wondering.....
    1) can you really put clorox/ chlorine bleach, borax and arm and hammer right into the pool?
    2) will it damage the linerl?
    3) do you need to wait X hours/ minutes after putting said products into the pool?
    4) how badly can I screw this up on my own??
    While fascinated by all that you post - I am admittedly intimidated. Do I need to get my new test kit before embarking on any of this, or could I try upping my Alkalinity with some arm and hammer without worrying too much? (the water test done at the pool company has my TA at 17 with a goal of 125-150)


    Thanks!

  2. Back To Top    #2
    Skitch's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Athens, Georgia
    Posts
    103

    Re: newbie chlorine ?

    1. Yes you can!
    2. No it won't.
    3. Less than you might imagine.
    4. It's easier than you think.
    18k gal AG Sand Filter K-2006

  3. Back To Top    #3
    Mod Squad jblizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    37,389

    Re: newbie chlorine ?

    Welcome to TFP!!!

    I will expound on the previous post a bit

    1. Yes. The TFPC method is really just about understanding your pool’s chemistry and through accurate testing, adding only what the pool NEEDS. See link below for recommended chemicals and how to add them.

    2. Not if you keep the pool balanced and add the chemicals correctly (same as with the pool store potions).

    3. Usually you only need about 30 minutes before it is safe to swim, even less for some of the chemicals.

    4. No worse that the pool store could screw it up for you.

    I would not make any adjustments based on pool store testing. Very unreliable. Investing in one of the Recommended Test Kits is the best first step.

    Sounds like you discovered Pool School already, but take a look at these:
    ABCs of Water Chemistry
    Recommended Pool Chemicals
    How to Chlorinate Your Pool
    Jason, TFP Moderator
    18k IG pebblesheen pool, Hayward ProLogic P4 w/ T-15 SWG, Pentair 1HP 2-speed Superflo, Hayward 6020 DE filter
    500 sqft Heliocol solar panels, ThePoolCleaner, TF-100 test kit w/ SpeedStir
    Pool School + Test Kit + PoolMath = A TROUBLE FREE POOL
    If you found TFP helpful and we saved you money ... Become a TFP Supporter!

  4. Back To Top    #4

    In the Industry

    Donldson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    NW Ohio
    Posts
    2,634

    Re: newbie chlorine ?

    Welcome to TFP!

    1. Yes
    2. Yes, if you do it wrong, but you can do that with any form of chlorine. A proper test kit prevent this by letting you know your true CYA level and true FC level.
    3. Typically a half hour before entering the pool is more than sufficient. Same between adding bleach and muriatic acid.
    4. No more than you can screw up by doing what the pool store tells you to do. Actually, I would say considerably less.

    To properly maintain a pool using the TFPC methods you will need a test kit up to task. The TF-100 is my kit of choice, available at the link in my signature. The k-2006 is also a good choice but can't do as many of the most important tests. I wouldn't do anything until you have test results that you got yourself. Pool store testing is not reliable by any means.

    Finally, intimidating, yes. Difficult to grasp at first? Sometimes. But you have a whole bunch of people here to help you start. It really isn't difficult after you do it yourself for a couple of weeks. After a few months you will get called an expert

    BTW, if you could add your pool information to your signature that will help us help you in the future. Really appreciate it!
    JD - 28' Round Above Ground Pool, 17,000 Gallons. Dual speed Jacuzzi pump with cartridge filter. Dual speed 1 HP pump, Hayward S210T sand filter
    Pool School - PoolMath - HIGHLY Recommended Test Kits

  5. Back To Top    #5
    Texas Splash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    South-Central Texas, Marion/San Antonio
    Posts
    12,934

    Re: newbie chlorine ?

    Hello PoolmomME! Lots of members on this site for good reason ....it works and works very well. I hope you will take a few moments to read the links below in my sig to give you a basic understanding of TFP. Many of us asked the very same questions you did. Also take a moment to update your profile "signature" to include your pool info for future reference and/or questions you may post. Have a good evening, and we hope you will give TFP a try. You'll be glad to you did.
    Pat (a.k.a. Texas Splash) ~ My Pool: Viking Fiberglass; 17,888 Gal; Waterway Supreme 2-sp/2-hp pump; Hayward Ctg filter; TF-100 w/ Speed Stir
    Vital Links: POOL SCHOOL, RECOMMENDED LEVELS, RECOMMENDED CHEMICALS, Poolmath Calculator, SLAM, Chlorine/CYA CHART.
    If you enjoyed your TFP experience, please consider donating to Support TFP!

  6. Back To Top    #6
    Patrick_B's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Midland TX
    Posts
    15,001

    Re: newbie chlorine ?

    Welcome to TFP!

    I can't add to the above. Read and study pool school, ask the questions you need too. Someone is here to help you learn as long as you are willing. Enjoy the forums.
    TFP Moderator
    Essential Links:
    ABC's Of Pool Chemistry, Test Kits, SLAM Your Pool
    28K Gal IG FreeForm, CLI Quartz, Pentair 36"SF & VS Pump, Dolphin M5, Rheem

  7. Back To Top    #7
    Isaac-1's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    SW Louisiana
    Posts
    6,711

    Re: newbie chlorine ?

    1) can you really put clorox/ chlorine bleach, borax and arm and hammer right into the pool?

    Just remember these are some of the exact same chemicals the pool store is selling you under a different name.

    Chlorox / chlorine bleach is chemically identical to the liquid chlorine sold by pool stores, the only real difference is the liquid chlorine is often slightly more concentrated, which also causes it to have a shorter shelf life

    Baking Soda is Sodium Bicarbonate, the EXACT SAME STUFF the pool store sells to adjust TA, the only difference is the labelling
    Indoor 20x40 35,000 gallon vinyl pool with 1.5 HP 2 speed Jandy FloPro pump, Hayward EC75 Perflex DE filter, 11 4x12 Techno-Solis solar panels w/ Aquasolar controller, Aquabot Turbo T Robot Cleaner. Also LMI metering chlorine dispenser pump and HotSpring Jetsetter
    I use and endorse TFtestKits TF-100 from http://tftestkits.net
    ~Remember TFP counts on your donations to keep this site ad free~

  8. Back To Top    #8
    lefty51's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    East of Royals country western MO
    Posts
    451

    Re: newbie chlorine ?

    Hello and Welcome all the posts above are on the money. I'm new here also and these same folks have helped me gain control of my own pool. What I didn't know I read and learned HERE. Plus ANY questions you can't find an answer too, just post it here and they will answer-- Most promptly ! The most important thing I think you can do (other than reading and learning) is have a good test kit. You'll find most people here praising the TF100. For a good reason, it is a great test kit and easy to use. In a nutshell, what I spent on the test kit and speedstir (I personally recommend this), and walmart bleach was less than I would spend on one trip to the pool store and their oh so pricey advice. Who would have thought owning and maintaining could be this easy. I now have too much time on my hands
    Si -central Mo. 32' x 16' -- 3'4" to 6' deep Vinyl liner - 16,500 Gals : Triton II filter -Duraglass 2 hp pump - 1 speed : SI-30 salt generator
    TF-100 with speedstir

  9. Back To Top    #9
    lmnconn's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Missouri
    Posts
    35

    Re: newbie chlorine ?

    Trust me, this method works and will not cause damage to anything but cloudy water. I am so glad I found this site while I was a newbie. It made me realize that I knew nothing about balanced water. I'm not the type to depend on others (like the pool store). I'm always a bit skeptical and need to know why I'm adding this or that. Now I'm educated and understand how my pool reacts to different things. I can stay on top of things before they go bad. I've never had cloudy or green water. And I close and open a crystal clear pool every year.
    St. Louis, MO, 25000 gal, 16x32 lagoon, vinyl, sand filter, Hayward pump, chlorine, install complete 9/12, Taylor TF100 test kit

  10. Back To Top    #10
    Texas Splash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    South-Central Texas, Marion/San Antonio
    Posts
    12,934

    Re: newbie chlorine ?

    Congratulations!
    Pat (a.k.a. Texas Splash) ~ My Pool: Viking Fiberglass; 17,888 Gal; Waterway Supreme 2-sp/2-hp pump; Hayward Ctg filter; TF-100 w/ Speed Stir
    Vital Links: POOL SCHOOL, RECOMMENDED LEVELS, RECOMMENDED CHEMICALS, Poolmath Calculator, SLAM, Chlorine/CYA CHART.
    If you enjoyed your TFP experience, please consider donating to Support TFP!

  11. Back To Top    #11
    Mod Squad pooldv's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    DFW, TX
    Posts
    23,994

    Re: newbie chlorine ?

    I hope I can put those in my pool. If not, then the last few years have been a big mistake.

    Look at my pool in my sig below, that is what happens when you put bleach and borax in your pool.
    TFP Moderator
    If TFP helped you or saved you money - Become a TFP Supporter! <--Click here
    2012 build and pics, 20k gal gunite, black onyx pebblesheen, OK flagstone, IntellifoVS, cart filter w/Pleatco, IC40 SWG, Solartouch, 5 12'x4' solar panels, HP50HA heat pump, 8mil solar cover, borates, TF-100 test kit, SONOS, Doheny's Discovery Robot, hot tub on bleach

  12. Back To Top    #12

    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Location
    Falmouth, ME
    Posts
    6

    Re: newbie chlorine ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    Welcome to TFP!!!

    I will expound on the previous post a bit

    1. Yes. The TFPC method is really just about understanding your pool’s chemistry and through accurate testing, adding only what the pool NEEDS. See link below for recommended chemicals and how to add them.

    2. Not if you keep the pool balanced and add the chemicals correctly (same as with the pool store potions).

    3. Usually you only need about 30 minutes before it is safe to swim, even less for some of the chemicals.

    4. No worse that the pool store could screw it up for you.

    I would not make any adjustments based on pool store testing. Very unreliable. Investing in one of the Recommended Test Kits is the best first step.

    Sounds like you discovered Pool School already, but take a look at these:
    ABCs of Water Chemistry
    Recommended Pool Chemicals
    How to Chlorinate Your Pool
    THANK YOU!!!! I ordered the TFT-100 pool test kit and will update my pool info ASAP. Thanks for all the encouragement, links and assists!

  13. Back To Top    #13
    Texas Splash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    South-Central Texas, Marion/San Antonio
    Posts
    12,934

    Re: newbie chlorine ?

    Glad you found the replies helpful. Once you receive your TF-100, feel free to post some test results or ask any questions you may have we'll be happy to help. Have a great day.
    Pat (a.k.a. Texas Splash) ~ My Pool: Viking Fiberglass; 17,888 Gal; Waterway Supreme 2-sp/2-hp pump; Hayward Ctg filter; TF-100 w/ Speed Stir
    Vital Links: POOL SCHOOL, RECOMMENDED LEVELS, RECOMMENDED CHEMICALS, Poolmath Calculator, SLAM, Chlorine/CYA CHART.
    If you enjoyed your TFP experience, please consider donating to Support TFP!

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •