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    Builder fighting me on Robot

    Would him losing out on money be the only reason he would want me to stick with the Pentair?

    He keeps arguing with me and I'm getting annoyed!
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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    Quote Originally Posted by amandahein3 View Post
    Would him losing out on money be the only reason he would want me to stick with the Pentair?

    He keeps arguing with me and I'm getting annoyed!
    Remember, he works for you.

    Get the robot, I love mine.
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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    What are his arguments?
    Once you shoot each of them down you can have him do it your way.
    If his argument is good, you can still overrule him, it's your dime.
    Behind the scenes he may get more favorable package pricing on the total-pentair-package that he does not fully pass on to you.
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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    He has no real arguments. Just "I think you should go with the Pentair" and it doesn't do well with trees. We have no trees in our backyard. None. Neither do our neighbors.
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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    He needs to be reset.
    I think the PB technical support manual suggests:
    Give him a sharp palm smack to the forehead and in a commanding voice say "Snap out of it"
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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    Lol I'm getting more frustrated as time goes on! This is the 3rd time I've asked the price difference and haven't gotten a number. I think he doesn't want to lose money but I'm going to reallocate it to the pool finish.
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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    The problem you are going to run into is that he is going to credit you the wholesale price of the Pentair and charge you retail for the finish upgrade. That is unless the Pentair had a line item cost in your contract.

    I agree with others, he works for you

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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    Yeah I know but not much I can do. At this point any amount towards the finish is less cash I have to come up with.
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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    Ahhhh! I asked if he could get me that info tonight. His response? "Not sure"

    This is at least the 3rd time I've asked.
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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    Just let him know that you are "not sure" when he will get the next check
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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    He hasn't gotten one check! Been raining too much

    I responded with

    Ok

    I'm feeling a lot of push back on this from you. And not feeling like my question is ever going to get answered or addressed.


    He responded with $875. Nothing more in the email.

    Is that a decent price to get get credited?
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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    Someone else will have to tell you if it is a decent price credit, but I too would vote robot any day
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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    Is that the added price to get a robot or the amount credited back by NOT getting "the Pentair"?
    For that matter what cleaner was going to be included? Pentair makes a LOT of different cleaners.
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    Builder fighting me on Robot

    No cleaner will be included. My brother in law manages a is a district manager of a pool store company and can get us a dolphin discounted.
    What model do you all suggest?

    So that is what is credited for not getting a cleaner with him.
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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    Did you never bother to find out WHAT cleaner was going to be included? It must have been a pretty nice one for that price.
    Maybe it was a boosted pressure cleaner and now you do not need to pay for the addition pump and electrical, etc.
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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    Get a Dolphin M5 or M500. Same unit updated. Forget the Pentair. My builder credited me 1400 on the entire setup for a Pentair 380.
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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    Dang $1400 would have been great!
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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    Amanda, much of the credit has to do with what is coming off. It is very easy to look at a build sheet and price out what is coming off. Likely a cleaner and a booster pump. If that is the case, his amount may be a little light. Without more info, we can't be of too much assistance.
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    Re: Builder fighting me on Robot

    I'm not gonna fight on getting more to come off. I don't have the energy.
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