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    So-Cal backyard bar

    Before I lay in with the questions I'll catch everyone up. Finished the pool in 2010. Did a DIY solar panel install (34 panels) in 2013. I've been working on my outdoor bar since January 2014. This has been the biggest, most multi-faceted project yet. First was the roof; a roughly 450 sq. ft. odd shaped gable roof design shoehorned into the corner of my yard. It uses 4 outside 6x6 posts on each side (8 total) then the ridge beam is supports with two more. The ridge beam is a 5.25" x 14" x 24' parallam. The roof deck is solid pine 2x6's for looks and with a vapor barrier and metal roofing over the top.
    I then embarked on the deck which is only about an inch off of the ground which was excavated down to put the top of the deck flush with grade. The deck material is Veranda (home depot) very similar to trex but cheaper.
    Next step was a 36" home built brick pizza oven in the corner.
    All of the pics and details can be found on my personal blog at http://n8sbar.servebeer.com/
    With the oven virtually complete it's time to start the actual bar. Now for the plans:
    A U-shaped bar. The back side, against the fence, will be a typical BBQ island style. Steel studs build right on the deck. It will be faced with wood. The opposite side and the rest of the U shape, will be a T shape. In other words, a single 6" wall, with a 12" cantilever countertop on each side of the wall. This will be welded together out of 1.25" tube steel, .125 wall, and then painted. This will provide the bartop to put bar stools up to on one side, and another 12" cantilever to conceal my bar equipment such as kegerator, ice bin, ice machine, etc. This is the typical commercial bar type. The exposed side of this part will have corrugated metal siding with a wooden picture frame border forming squares.
    All the countertops will be GFRC, pre-cast in forms, 2" thick plus an edge to conceal everything.







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    Re: So-Cal backyard bar

    Very nice design and handiwork. Also like the plans for the U-shaped bar.
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    Nice, what kind of batteries do you have on your solar panels?
    Completed 38'X21' IG Free form pool approx 18.5K gallons, sports pool w/spa and tanning shelf 3.5-5.5 ft. Jandy Cartridge Filter, Jandy stealth pumps, Jandy LXi Heater, I aqualink, Inline chlorinator. Click to see My Pool Build

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodog123 View Post
    Nice, what kind of batteries do you have on your solar panels?
    No batteries. I'm grid tied with Enphase Inverters. You can view my system here: https://enlighten.enphaseenergy.com/...ems/3AvS186900
    15,000 gallon gunite pool, grey plaster with 8' raised spa
    Jandy PlusHP Pump 2 HP Dual Speed
    Sta-Rite 450 Sq. ft. Cartridge Filter
    Cleva-Chlor RP40HD
    Raypak 400k btu heater
    Jandy Aqualink RS-8 One Touch
    Savi Melody 12v LED lights

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    Couple questions about the steel studs for the bar. I've never used them before.
    1.) I gather it's arguably better to use rivets so that the hardi-backer sits flush. I've also read that stainless is best. Any issue with galvanic corrosion? If not, I'll go with these 1/8" stainless rivets and a #30 drill bit per Dr. Dave's recommendations.

    2.) Since my deck is already trex(ish) I assume I can screw my steel track directly to the deck, no need to make trex standoff feet, correct? Should I put hardie-backer on the bottom? It's covered with a roof and I live in California so moisture issues are minimal. It will probably just be wood storage for my wood fired oven.

    3.) Ive read that the 2.5" studs are better than the 3-5/8" studs but my home depot only has the 3-5/8. Should I look around at other distributors or is it not really a big deal?

    4.) I've seen a couple people use L-brackets in the corner where the stud meets the track. Is this necessary or totally pointless and overkill?

    5.) For the 2" GFRC that will be on top, is 1/4" hardie-backer enough. Or should I beef that up? I assume 1/4" on the sides is more than enough?

    6.) Lastly, what is the preferred stud spacing? I'd like the front to be mostly accessible with doors to make best use of the storage. The back side I can follow any stud spacing recommended.

    Thanks
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    Jandy PlusHP Pump 2 HP Dual Speed
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    Cleva-Chlor RP40HD
    Raypak 400k btu heater
    Jandy Aqualink RS-8 One Touch
    Savi Melody 12v LED lights

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    Re: So-Cal backyard bar

    One more question in addition to the above. Regarding the other side of the bar, the T shaped side, with the double 12" cantilever; does this frame made of 1.25" square x .125" wall tube steel look sufficient enough for the 2" gfrc?
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    Jandy PlusHP Pump 2 HP Dual Speed
    Sta-Rite 450 Sq. ft. Cartridge Filter
    Cleva-Chlor RP40HD
    Raypak 400k btu heater
    Jandy Aqualink RS-8 One Touch
    Savi Melody 12v LED lights

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    Will the pizza oven be pre-fab?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rodog123 View Post
    Will the pizza oven be pre-fab?
    The very first pic is my actual bar/kitchen. You can see the pizza oven in the top left corner. It's already complete, along with the roof and deck. It was not pre-fab. I built it with the help of the forno bravo forum. You can see all the pics on my wordpress page: http://n8sbar.servebeer.com/
    15,000 gallon gunite pool, grey plaster with 8' raised spa
    Jandy PlusHP Pump 2 HP Dual Speed
    Sta-Rite 450 Sq. ft. Cartridge Filter
    Cleva-Chlor RP40HD
    Raypak 400k btu heater
    Jandy Aqualink RS-8 One Touch
    Savi Melody 12v LED lights

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    Man that is sweet! Hats off to you sir!
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