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    Cool I started up my own pool!!!!

    Okay, so the poll company didn't show up to start up my pool. So I said fine! I'll do it myself!

    Here's my initial reading after start-up and 2 gallons of shock (not enough, I know, it's all I had on hand, since the pool company didn't show)

    5/16:
    FC:1
    CC: 3
    TC:4
    CH: 150
    TA: 300
    CYA: 0 <- YIKES!
    PH: 7.8 <- Not too bad!

    Someone remind me how I am supposed to lower my TA and raise my CYA??
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    Re: I started up my own pool!!!!

    Lynzizzle- good for you for taking charge! It looks like you need to do a SLAM with a cc >.5. You will need to buy stabilizer (CYA) and add that to your pool. Just use pool math to help figure out how much you'll need. There is also a CYA/Chlorine chart in pool school so you will know how many ppm of chlorine you'll need for your level of CYA. When I started out, I shot for the 30-40 range. Just make sure your chlorine SLAM level coordinates with the amount of CYA that you've decided on.

    TA is a frustration for me right now as well. It drives your pH up quickly, so make sure to lower your pH to 7.2 with MA before you start your SLAM. TA will decrease with time as you lower your pH. Aerating your water is a good way to lower pH - think rain, kids splashing around or fountains. PH test results are unreliable during SLAM.
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    Re: I started up my own pool!!!!

    Im sure this was a typeo, but just to clarify....

    Aeration actually rasises pH.

    To lower TA, does with MA to lower pH and TA and aerate to raise pH

    Quote Originally Posted by S1ngram View Post
    TA is a frustration for me right now as well. It drives your pH up quickly, so make sure to lower your pH to 7.2 with MA before you start your .... . .... Aerating your water is a good way to lower pH - think rain, kids splashing around or fountains. PH test results are unreliable during SLAM.
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    Re: I started up my own pool!!!!

    Congratulations on doing that yourself!!
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    Re: I started up my own pool!!!!

    The big question: what does the water look like?

    High CC and low CYA could point to Ammonia formation. There's a lot of that this year.

    Your TA may not be that high. Did you wipe the tip on the bottle of reagent? Static electricity can cause the drops to be smaller than they should be giving you a false high reading.

    CC that high means a SLAM is needed. But hold your horses....

    My advice: target 7.4 pH first using acid. If you end up below that, it means TA wasn't as high as you thought. Next, take FC up to 8 or 10 and brush a little while the pump is also mixing things. Half an hour after adding, take FC & CC readings. If CC has gone up even more and FC has gone way down, you have ammonia. Post back and we can walk you through it.

    Once the CC starts to drop, then you'll be wanting to get some CYA in there and proceed with the SLAM as usual.
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    Re: I started up my own pool!!!!

    Thanks for the correction Divine Dave! I'm still learning
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    Re: I started up my own pool!!!!

    Before you start adding chemicals, did you let the pool pump run for an hour before testing the water? If not let the pump run and do the tests again.
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    Re: I started up my own pool!!!!

    Good stuff, congrats!

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    Here are the Recommended Levels for your pool.
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    Re: I started up my own pool!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by pooldv View Post
    Good stuff, congrats!

    Welcome to TFP!

    Here are some intro Pool School articles to read while you wait for your test kit
    TFPC for Beginners
    ABC's of Pool Water Chemistry

    Here are the Recommended Levels for your pool.
    Here are the Recommended Pool Chemicals to maintain your pool.
    Use PoolMath to figure out how much to add.
    I already have my test kit as I used the TFP method last year.

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    All - I went ahead and added CYA to the water via sock method to slowly integrate into the system. My pool is clearing up rather quickly actually and holding Chlorine steady at 10. Yesterday's CC reading was down and PH down to 7.2.

    SLAM is already in full effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard320 View Post
    The big question: what does the water look like?

    High CC and low CYA could point to Ammonia formation. There's a lot of that this year.

    Your TA may not be that high. Did you wipe the tip on the bottle of reagent? Static electricity can cause the drops to be smaller than they should be giving you a false high reading.

    CC that high means a SLAM is needed. But hold your horses....

    My advice: target 7.4 pH first using acid. If you end up below that, it means TA wasn't as high as you thought. Next, take FC up to 8 or 10 and brush a little while the pump is also mixing things. Half an hour after adding, take FC & CC readings. If CC has gone up even more and FC has gone way down, you have ammonia. Post back and we can walk you through it.

    Once the CC starts to drop, then you'll be wanting to get some CYA in there and proceed with the SLAM as usual.
    Water is clear. A little green from algae growth but the algae is dying.

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    I'll get you guys a reading tonight.
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    Re: I started up my own pool!!!!

    5/17:
    FC: 10.5
    CC: 0
    TC: 10.5
    CH: 250
    TA: 290
    CYA: 0
    PH: 7.2 <- Dropped drastically.

    Didn't get a reading last night as it was basically tornado-ing. Update this evening.
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    Re: I started up my own pool!!!!

    OK, we accept that as a valid reason for not testing.

    PH test is not valid when FC is above 10.
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    Re: I started up my own pool!!!!

    5/19

    FC: 8.5
    CC: 0
    TC: 8.5
    CYA: 0 - filled another sock tonight to bring it up - should I pour directly in slimmer instead like directions say?
    PH: 7.5 - right in the money!! 🏼


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    Re: I started up my own pool!!!!

    No, pouring it in the skimmer sends it straight to the filter. Sock is better. Squeeze the sock a few times a day to speed the process up.
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