Become a TFP Supporter Pool Math Forum Rules Pool School
Results 1 to 18 of 18

Thread: broke a pipe..whoops

  1. Back To Top    #1

    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    rockford,il
    Posts
    5

    broke a pipe..whoops

    We moved into a house on November and just started opening the pool. We are first time pool owners and have to learn everything. We are having a problem with the water pressure pull in not being consistent so I took the lid off the filter to clean it. Upon putting it back on it was raining and my foot slipped breaking the pipe that exits the filter. How do I beak the seals on the pipe and put a new one on?

  2. Back To Top    #2
    Mod Squad jblizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    37,389

    Re: broke a pipe..whoops

    Welcome to TFP!!!

    Small world, I was born in Rockford, family is still there.

    Can you post up a picture of your equipment pad?
    Jason, TFP Moderator
    18k IG pebblesheen pool, Hayward ProLogic P4 w/ T-15 SWG, Pentair 1HP 2-speed Superflo, Hayward 6020 DE filter
    500 sqft Heliocol solar panels, ThePoolCleaner, TF-100 test kit w/ SpeedStir
    Pool School + Test Kit + PoolMath = A TROUBLE FREE POOL
    If you found TFP helpful and we saved you money ... Become a TFP Supporter!

  3. Back To Top    #3

    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    rockford,il
    Posts
    5

  4. Back To Top    #4
    Mod Squad jblizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    37,389

    Re: broke a pipe..whoops

    So you can just unscrew the piece that is in the filter.
    Then right at the step is a union that you can open. If you can find the same union, you can just rebuild from that point back up and turn into the filter.
    Or you can just cut the vertical pipe above the union (like in the middle), and add a coupler, new 90 turn, and new male threaded fitting into the filter.

    You will need to work from the filter back to the union.
    Jason, TFP Moderator
    18k IG pebblesheen pool, Hayward ProLogic P4 w/ T-15 SWG, Pentair 1HP 2-speed Superflo, Hayward 6020 DE filter
    500 sqft Heliocol solar panels, ThePoolCleaner, TF-100 test kit w/ SpeedStir
    Pool School + Test Kit + PoolMath = A TROUBLE FREE POOL
    If you found TFP helpful and we saved you money ... Become a TFP Supporter!

  5. Back To Top    #5
    Mod Squad tim5055's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Columbia, SC
    Posts
    8,495

    Re: broke a pipe..whoopsk

    Quote Originally Posted by samis View Post
    How do I beak the seals on the pipe and put a new one on?
    Jaosn has covered what you need to do fairly well, but understand with PVC pipe you only get one try at making a connection. Once glued you can't "break the seal". The glue joint is forever. Search YouTube for videos on gluing PVC pipe for,some examples. You should be able to,find what you need at any of the big box hardware stores.
    TFP Moderator 39 X 18 23,000(ish) freeform gunite; built 2007ish; Pentair Triton II TR100 600lb Sand filter; 2 HP Pentair pump with 2.2 HP AO Smith single speed motor; 2 skimmers, 1 main drain, 4 returns w/waterfall, Stenner 45MHP2 3GPD running@ 60% - 15 gal Tank; heated by the sun CYA 200+ when I started - 50 now. Dolphin Supreme M5 Pool Cleaner. Hot Springs SX Spa, 285 gallon

  6. Back To Top    #6

    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    rockford,il
    Posts
    5

    Re: broke a pipe..whoops

    I think the piece that's on the first is sealed on there. What do i use to seal the pipes together?

  7. Back To Top    #7

    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Wildorado Texas
    Posts
    252

    Re: broke a pipe..whoops

    Quote Originally Posted by samis View Post
    I think the piece that's on the first is sealed on there. What do i use to seal the pipes together?
    Break that union (unscrew it) then set that vertical piece aside. Then unscrew the male adapter (the broken piece) from the filter. Take them both down to your local hardware store and they'll know exactly what you need and how to fix this.

    This would be a 5 minute job if you'd ever done any PVC work before but don't feel bad. There's a first time for everything eventually.

  8. Back To Top    #8
    Mod Squad jblizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    37,389

    Re: broke a pipe..whoops

    I think the confusion is the threaded fitting. You want to get some pipe dope (like rectorseal) that is meant for PVC to help seal that threaded fitting.
    Jason, TFP Moderator
    18k IG pebblesheen pool, Hayward ProLogic P4 w/ T-15 SWG, Pentair 1HP 2-speed Superflo, Hayward 6020 DE filter
    500 sqft Heliocol solar panels, ThePoolCleaner, TF-100 test kit w/ SpeedStir
    Pool School + Test Kit + PoolMath = A TROUBLE FREE POOL
    If you found TFP helpful and we saved you money ... Become a TFP Supporter!

  9. Back To Top    #9

    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Wildorado Texas
    Posts
    252

    Re: broke a pipe..whoops

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    I think the confusion is the threaded fitting. You want to get some pipe dope (like rectorseal) that is meant for PVC to help seal that threaded fitting.
    Ahh yes, or teflon tape which is my preferred thread sealer.

  10. Back To Top    #10
    Mod Squad jblizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    37,389

    Re: broke a pipe..whoops

    I find the tape doesn't work as well on larger diameter pipes.
    Jason, TFP Moderator
    18k IG pebblesheen pool, Hayward ProLogic P4 w/ T-15 SWG, Pentair 1HP 2-speed Superflo, Hayward 6020 DE filter
    500 sqft Heliocol solar panels, ThePoolCleaner, TF-100 test kit w/ SpeedStir
    Pool School + Test Kit + PoolMath = A TROUBLE FREE POOL
    If you found TFP helpful and we saved you money ... Become a TFP Supporter!

  11. Back To Top    #11

    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    rockford,il
    Posts
    5

    Re: broke a pipe..whoops

    I don't have any tools to get the broken piece off the filter and it's not budging by hand. I think the sealed it into the filter.

  12. Back To Top    #12
    Mod Squad jblizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    37,389

    Re: broke a pipe..whoops

    You need a big adjustable wrench or a pipe wrench.
    Jason, TFP Moderator
    18k IG pebblesheen pool, Hayward ProLogic P4 w/ T-15 SWG, Pentair 1HP 2-speed Superflo, Hayward 6020 DE filter
    500 sqft Heliocol solar panels, ThePoolCleaner, TF-100 test kit w/ SpeedStir
    Pool School + Test Kit + PoolMath = A TROUBLE FREE POOL
    If you found TFP helpful and we saved you money ... Become a TFP Supporter!

  13. Back To Top    #13

    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Wildorado Texas
    Posts
    252

    Re: broke a pipe..whoops

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    I find the tape doesn't work as well on larger diameter pipes.
    All depends on how it is applied, at least in my experience. I've used it successfully on PVC as large is 4 inch.

    Pipe dope winds up in the system messing up seals clogging orifices, etc. Personally I avoid using it ever. But that's just me.

  14. Back To Top    #14

    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Wildorado Texas
    Posts
    252

    Re: broke a pipe..whoops

    Quote Originally Posted by samis View Post
    I don't have any tools to get the broken piece off the filter and it's not budging by hand. I think the sealed it into the filter.
    It's just pipe dope. I seriously doubt they glued it there. It will give it up, you just need some torque.

    IF it is glued on we simply cut the inside of it with a hacksaw blade until we have it weakened enough to then twist one ear of it with pliers, and rolling it out of there. (DON'T cut all the way through the white PVC if having to do this.)

  15. Back To Top    #15

    TFP Guide

    chiefwej's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Tucson
    Posts
    2,853

    Re: broke a pipe..whoops

    There are different thicknesses of Teflon tape. It's usually color coded by thickness. So you use the thick stuff for larger pipes or just put a lot of wraps of the regular stuff.
    chiefwej
    Tucson, AZ
    16x36 rectangular (19k) Pebble Tec play pool/spa, Pentair Intelliflo VS 011018, Super II 2hp (spa), Aqua Rite T-15 SWG, Pro Grid 60 DE, Hayward H400 & Heliocol Solar heating, A&A infloor system, fill water w/high CH and TA, 50 ppm borates,TF-100 test kit

  16. Back To Top    #16

    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Wildorado Texas
    Posts
    252

    Re: broke a pipe..whoops

    Quote Originally Posted by chiefwej View Post
    There are different thicknesses of Teflon tape. It's usually color coded by thickness. So you use the thick stuff for larger pipes or just put a lot of wraps of the regular stuff.
    ~ding~

  17. Back To Top    #17
    Mod Squad jblizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    37,389

    Re: broke a pipe..whoops

    I think the issue is that most people use way too much of the tape.
    I had not considered the extra dope getting into the system, although there is not much to mess up in a pool system.
    Jason, TFP Moderator
    18k IG pebblesheen pool, Hayward ProLogic P4 w/ T-15 SWG, Pentair 1HP 2-speed Superflo, Hayward 6020 DE filter
    500 sqft Heliocol solar panels, ThePoolCleaner, TF-100 test kit w/ SpeedStir
    Pool School + Test Kit + PoolMath = A TROUBLE FREE POOL
    If you found TFP helpful and we saved you money ... Become a TFP Supporter!

  18. Back To Top    #18

    In the Industry

    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    151

    Re: broke a pipe..whoops

    I use both...two wraps of tape and a bit of dope for insurance. I RARELY have leaks. If I do it is because threads are boogered or something is out of round...
    Science and Math Teacher
    Owner - SPS - part time pool biz
    18x36 IG Vinyl, 23000 Gallons with Jacuzzi (the bane of my existance) pumpworks
    Polaris 280 w/ PB4 booster

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •