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    New FG pool balancing

    The pool has been completely drained and filled 12 days ago.
    PB added some chemicals 9 days ago on Friday and told me he would be back, but hasn't yet.
    Yesterday I did my first test and here are the results:

    5/11/15 2:17 PM
    FC 1.0
    CC 0.5
    PH 7.5
    TA 120
    CH 75
    CYA 5 - estimate as I could still see the bubble and the tube was completely full.
    Salt 0
    Borate 0
    Temp 82

    So the question is, do I raise the CYA by using the autocholinator's tables or should I intervene?

    Also, for the chlorine, I'm thinking of just buying some bleach at Sam's club and drive the FC up.

    Whacha all think?
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    Re: New FG pool balancing

    I would. Summer will be halfway over before you have adequate CYA if you wait for the pucks to do it all.
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    Re: New FG pool balancing

    Bleach to raise FC is a great idea. I have a hard time reading what your CYA is the way you posted it.
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    Re: New FG pool balancing

    Welcome to TFP! Congrats on the new pool!

    If you don't want algae to grow in your pool then you must keep the chlorine level above the minimum level for your CYA level based on this Chlorine CYA Chart. Even one day with FC below the minimum will give algae a foothold and it will start growing and you will have to SLAM your pool. Not adding CYA to your pool will require you to add chlorine more often during the day when the sun is on the pool because the sun will consume the chlorine faster without CYA in the pool.

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    Re: New FG pool balancing

    Does CYA = 120? Thats what im reading in the OPs list even though its staggered. If thats the case, you don't want ANY more CYA.
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    Re: New FG pool balancing

    Quote Originally Posted by umpalumpajay View Post
    Does CYA = 120? Thats what im reading in the OPs list even though its staggered. If thats the case, you don't want ANY more CYA.
    That is how I read it too, so I a was confused on wanting to raise CYA.
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    Re: New FG pool balancing

    DATE/TIME FC CC pH TA CH CYA Salt Borate Temp
    5/11/15 2:17 PM 1.0 0.5 7.5 120 75 5 82

    This is how I interpret it
    FC 1.0
    CC 0.5
    PH 7.5
    TA 120
    CH 75
    CYA 0
    Salt 0
    Borate 5
    Temp 82
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    Re: New FG pool balancing

    Sorry guys for confusion.
    When I was posting it, the columns lined up, now they're not.

    Here are the results in column format -- I will also update original post:

    FC 1.0
    CC 0.5
    PH 7.5
    TA 120
    CH 75
    CYA 5 - estimate as I could still see the bubble and the tube was completely full.
    Salt 0
    Borate 0
    Temp 82
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    Re: New FG pool balancing

    oooooooh, hahaha! there was no "0" in the salt column and i have a tendency to read right to left (its a weird habit). Get some CYA and chlorine in that pool stat! LOL!
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    Re: New FG pool balancing

    I've added 121Oz of 8.25% bleach from Sam's club this morning.
    If my calcs are correct, that should bring me up in line.

    What's the best option/source for CYA?

    I should say that I have a full bucket of the chlorine tablets that I don't plan on using much.
    I figured I will run the automated chlorinator if we ever leave town, but that's about it.
    If dumping 5-6 of those tables as a source of chlorine is a viable way and as a byproduct they will raise CYA to my target level (40), then I'm all for that.

    I will also point out that we do have automatic pool cover that's on all the time -- well, with exception of the 1 or so hour a day that the wife and kids swim.
    I say that because I hear that chlorine is burned of by direct sunlight and the amount of time the pool is covered almost totally eliminates that problem.
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    New FG pool balancing

    You can buy CYA at Walmart or lowes. Usually about $14 for a 3lb container. Just put part of what you need in an old sock in the skimmer or in front of a return to dissolve. You can squeeze it every once in a while to make it dissolve faster.


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    Re: New FG pool balancing

    Quote Originally Posted by n240sxguy View Post
    You can buy CYA at Walmart or lowes. Usually about $14 for a 3lb container. Just put part of what you need in an old sock in the skimmer or in front of a return to dissolve. You can squeeze it every once in a while to make it dissolve faster.


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    Re: New FG pool balancing

    That would be it.
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