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    My tests vs the pool store!

    PH-7.2
    FC-4
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    TA-60
    CH-175
    CYA-55-60
    Salt-3400 as per test set and 2450 on easytouch controller (that's a whole other thread)

    Pool store says I need to:

    Add 18lbs of TA increaser
    Wait 6 hrs
    Add 18lbs of TA increaser
    Wait 6 hrs
    Add 9 lbs of TA increaser
    Wait 6 hrs
    Add 5 lbs of clean shock brush pool after adding
    Wait 24 hrs
    Add 16 lbs of calcium hardness increaser
    Wait 6 hours
    Add 16 lbs of calcium hardness increaser
    Wait 6 hours
    Add 16 lbs of calcium hardness increaser
    Wait 6 hours


    If I understand correctly from this site my numbers are in line other than pH which I want at 7.5. Being a vinyl lined pool I thought I read where calcium hardness is not a big deal.

    Please shed some light on this for me. I have used these same numbers for the last two years and everything seemed to work fine. I just don't want to damage liner or equipment meant by not doing something.

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    Re: My tests vs the pool store!

    My advice would be don't follow what the pool store says to do. Use TFP method and adjust according to your TF 100 tests using pool math.
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    Re: My tests vs the pool store!

    That is what I've done since the pool has been in. I have never shocked my pool either. Should I shock it every so often or not. A friend of mine shocks theirs once a month on pool store advice. I don't see the need. But then again I'm not a pool pro either.
    20x49 double roman 3.5' to 8.5 deep', 44,000 gal. SWG, TF-100 test kit with speed stir, concrete walls with vinyl liner, cartridge filter on an IG pool with a 1hp main pump and 1.5hp booster pump. Pool built April 2013

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    Re: My tests vs the pool store!

    Nope, maintain it properly and no need to shock.

    Funny, they want a lot of CH for a vinyl lined pool
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    Re: My tests vs the pool store!

    As long as you keep your FC at the correct level for your CYA and you have a CC of .5 or less and the water is crystal clear there is really no reason to shock.
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    Re: My tests vs the pool store!

    No No No! Don't do it!

    your test results looks just fine! Since you have a vinyl pool like me, even your Ph is ok at 7.2, but you can raise it if you want to, it wont hurt anything.

    If you keep your FC within the recommended levels, then you will be just fine.
    http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...art-slam-shock
    http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...mmended-levels

    Your TA at 60 buffers your Ph and it wont rise as fast. 60 is great if you have a SWG! The pool store having you add all that TA increase will just put you in Ph Misery. Trust me on that!

    Its true that CH is not applicable to a vinyl pool. There is no chemistry reaction between vinyl and calcium what-so-ever.
    You just dont want the CH exhorbitantly high(+500), because then, even with vinyl, you can get calcium scaling.

    they obviously do NOT understand pool chemistry at all!

    Trust your own test results and trust Pool Math, and trust the recommended levels to keep your pool Trouble Free! It works as you have already experienced! And if it works, dont fix it!
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    Re: My tests vs the pool store!

    Is a pool store test really free???? NOT if they sell you all kinds of things you do not need.

    Trust YOUR tests and follow the TFP way. Cheaper and better!

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    Re: My tests vs the pool store!

    Thanks for the answers. Just confirms what I thought about the CH and shocking. Why shock if you have no problems.

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    Funny to me that the pool store prolly takes care of several hundred if not a thousand pools from 6 stores and they can't even get a test right. Geez, if I can do it with a simple test kit they should be able to also.
    20x49 double roman 3.5' to 8.5 deep', 44,000 gal. SWG, TF-100 test kit with speed stir, concrete walls with vinyl liner, cartridge filter on an IG pool with a 1hp main pump and 1.5hp booster pump. Pool built April 2013

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    Re: My tests vs the pool store!

    Quote Originally Posted by gobblerhuntr View Post
    Thanks for the answers. Just confirms what I thought about the CH and shocking. Why shock if you have no problems.

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    Funny to me that the pool store prolly takes care of several hundred if not a thousand pools from 6 stores and they can't even get a test right. Geez, if I can do it with a simple test kit they should be able to also.
    as to the shocking part, they make money selling shock. It is unfortunate that a lot of people who own pools ignore them during the week and then on the weekend want to use them - thus the shock.

    As to the pool,store,testing, some actually do it right, but not many. Due to a combination of poor "on the job" training, lack of understanding as to what each test is really telling them, and many times just a poor attitude leads to poor results. You care about your pool and doing the test correctly. They just want to get through a line of customers and make sales recommendations.
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    Re: My tests vs the pool store!

    That's hilarious. Your water tests perfect, but they want to sell you $200 worth of **** for no reason. The art of the sale I guess.


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    Re: My tests vs the pool store!

    Indeed!

    Talk about giving you the Treatment "Royale"
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